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vrbryant said:
Okay. What about this?

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I'd bet Pete Rose $50 that the second pic you posted would not be a problem at all. LoKy hit it on the head when he said that many people are simply too uptight nowadays. I see nothing wrong with your first pic. It isn't porn, it isn't demeaning, it is tasteful and can be considered as "art"-worthy as your second pic. However, I do not know your work environment and whether or not "customers" could see it.

BTW, how "hot" is the person who complained about it?
 
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Nice picture, but it wouldn't fly here. I'm normally the only one who looks at my computer as well, but if I were in a meeting, projecting my computer on the screen and that came up, I'm pretty sure it would be frowned on.

I agree though, people are way too uptight about things.
 
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Along these lines, I was very surprised to find that someone taped up (next to the BROKEN coffee machine) a copy of "The Good Wife's Guide" from Housekeeping monthly magazine in 1955. It contains such gems as this:

-Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
-Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.
-Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner or other places of entertainment without you. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
-A good wife always knows her place.
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Now, I find this funny. But here's another example of something that could be questioned as inappropriate. Frankly, I'll bet many women would object to this more than the picture on vrbryant's computer.
 
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ScarletInMyVeins said:
The problem is though, the question wasn't "is society too uptight". The question was "is this picture inapropriate to have in a work place in todays society?" and the answer is yes.
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it depends on the work place... I'm sure there are calenders hanging in some garages or construction trailers that are 10 times worse than that pic. Maybe it wasn't the best choice for an office enviroment but I work at a radio station and this pic would be fine to have on my computer.
 
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buckiprof said:
BTW, how "hot" is the person who complained about it?
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A quote from Vincent from last weekend: "I can't wait until I'm out of there so I never have to see TFTB again... She's the ugliest woman I've ever seen."

For what it's worth, our cubicles and computers are arranged in such a way that passers-by cannot see the desktops. (How the hell do you think we get so much BP posting done?) Someone has to literally walk around into our spaces to see our monitors, which usually leaves plenty of time for ALT-Tabbing...

Anyway, I knew the picture was there, and it doesn't bother me personally. I did warn Vince that TFTB would be bothered by it (she's probably the second most uptight person I know, outside of my in-laws), but I left it as his choice as to whether or not he wanted to take that risk. We have no written policies in place regarding this sort of thing. Sadly, I missed the screaming and door slamming, as I was running rather late this morning... but from what I hear, it was a very inappropriate way to handle the situation. Oh, and I heard that from a neutral third party, not just from Vincent. I agree - it's their prerogative to not allow such things, but with no policy in place, there certainly was a better way to handle it.

Oh, and at my previous job, an employee did get blasted by the HR director for something similar to the Botticelli work. It wasn't that one exactly, but something similar - a classical piece of art. That HR director was the most uptight person I've met.

Edit - spelling.
 
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PrincessPeach said:
A quote from Vincent from last weekend: "I can't wait until I'm out of there so I never have to see TFTB again... She's the ugliest woman I've ever seen."

For what it's worth, our cubibles and computers are arranged in such a way that passers-by cannot see the desktops. (How the hell do you think we get so much BP posting done?) Someone has to literally walk around into our spaces to see our monitors, which usually leaves plenty of time for ALT-Tabbing...

Anyway, I knew the picture was there, and it doesn't bother me personally. I did warn Vince that TFTB would be bothered by it (she's probably the second most uptight person I know, outside of my in-laws), but I left it as his choice as to whether or not he wanted to take that risk. We have no written policies in place regarding this sort of thing. Sadly, I missed the screaming and door slamming, as I was running rather late this morning... but from what I hear, it was a very inappropriate way to handle the situation. Oh, and I heard that from a neutral third party, not just from Vincent. I agree - it's their prerogative to not allow such things, but with no policy in place, there certainly was a better way to handle it.

Oh, and at my previous job, an employee did get blasted by the HR director for something similar to the Botticelli work. It wasn't that one exactly, but something similar - a classical piece of art. That HR director was the most uptight person I've met.
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I didn't know you two worked together.
 
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ScarletInMyVeins said:
The problem is though, the question wasn't "is society too uptight". The question was "is this picture inapropriate to have in a work place in todays society?" and the answer is yes.
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This is correct. While the situation could have been handled much more professionally than it was, it is inappropriate. Think about this. This a law firm. In a litigious society. If anyone is all too aware of how broad the definition of sexual harassment is, it's a group of lawyers. Anyone who sees this picture in any professional environment can claim that it creates an uncomfortable work environment and then things get messy. From reading your posts on this board, you seem to have a unique approach to self expression, sort of "nihilistically provacative". While I appreciate the "different" perspective you give on things, I doubt that the law firm shares my perspective. I think I would be somewhat careful until you leave this job. If someone has it in for you, and it seems like someone might, don't give them any ammo. The job is miserable enough as it is. Just my 2 cents.
 
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I've seen far, far worse. I travel around the mid-west quite a bit and visit places like fuel storage terminals and piping sub-stations, where maybe 5-10 guys might work. The offices are the type of thing where 3-4 guys might share a desk, since they are rarely ever in the office. And when they are, they just sit around drinking coffee and chatting about their wives. It's not the type of place where they have many people visiting them, and I see Playboy and Penthouse calenders regularly in places like that.

That, of course, doesn't bother me in the least. In fact, it makes me find excuses to hang out in the office for a little bit more time. ("It's raining and I need to dry my data sheets off.") But I can see how something like that would offend someone else, and if I were the manager or owned the company, I don't think I would allow it.

I think that whoever owns or runs the company should be able to set the rules regarding that kind of thing. After that, if someone is offended by something that is within the guidelines, then that person can just not look at your desktop, or not go into your office, or find himself/herself another job.

I also think that some people are too easily offended. I don't know when or how the country has become pussified, but it's happened and is happening. Go tell her you're offended with her taking offense to what you consider to be "art."
 
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As someone who's been through the oddly named 'sexual harassment training', I certainly see that the first picture could be considered inappropriate for a professional setting.

And while very few would be offended while observing 'The Birth of Venus' in the Uffizi, I think the woman who talked to you this morning would consider it's choice as something that's testing her limits and her reactions. It probably shouldn't be considered inappropriate for work per se, but I don't think it's going to diffuse the situation. I think you're aware of that already, and just need to decide whether or not you wish to attempt to push her buttons.
 
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I figured this was a ploy by VR to get fired so he could collect unemployement. Maybe if it was picture of the bosses wife?

I had the screen saver that had girls in swimsuits rotating every 2 minutes. The lady that updates our PC application on my laptop used to see it. I changed it once and she asked, "Where are the girls", so I guess it did not bother her much.
 
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