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BUCKYLE;736928; said:
Ohio may not produce as many 5 stars as other states. But that's not a true measure of talent.

Look at the NFL HOF numbers. Though Ohio isn't as large population wise as other football hotbeds, we compare favorably in HOF'ers. Those would be true "elite" players. The rest were mistaken as elite by a recruiting service. Just my .02.
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I'm not talking NFL Hall of Fame, or even 5 star studs. I am simply saying players that Tressel thinks are worthy of OSU scholarships. You do not find them at every position, every year, w/ consistent depth. You do in the other states I mentioned. Do you think Tressel might have offered a couple more Ohio DTs besides Jeremiah if the talent had been there this year?
 
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stxbuck;737016; said:
I'm not talking NFL Hall of Fame, or even 5 star studs. I am simply saying players that Tressel thinks are worthy of OSU scholarships. You do not find them at every position, every year, w/ consistent depth. You do in the other states I mentioned. Do you think Tressel might have offered a couple more Ohio DTs besides Jeremiah if the talent had been there this year?
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I'm just saying that even Tressel is going to make mistakes. There are going to be plenty of kids not offered by tOSU that are "elite", just slipped through the cracks, for whatever reason.

Just because LSU offers a kid from Louisiana a scholly, doesn't mean the kid is elite. (not that that's what you were implying)
 
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Tressel Recruiting Choices

I'm just saying that even Tressel is going to make mistakes.
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Tressel is human but saying he will make mistakes with his selection of recruits is speculative. In Ohio he has one of the best pools of talented kids to select from and those that were selected just happen to have the right mix of "stuff" to impress JT. There may be better players all over the country that he will never see except for maybe on the football field playing tOSU. It's my humble opinion that a great coach will take a collection of talented kids and make them into a winning football team. No one player will take them to undefeated status or the playoff games. But one coach with his collection of talented 3 and 4 star players will. Tressel made no mistakes, he knows what he's doing for the team. He, after all, is the Mastermind.
 
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utgrad73;738592; said:
Tressel is human but saying he will make mistakes with his selection of recruits is speculative. In Ohio he has one of the best pools of talented kids to select from and those that were selected just happen to have the right mix of "stuff" to impress JT. There may be better players all over the country that he will never see except for maybe on the football field playing tOSU. It's my humble opinion that a great coach will take a collection of talented kids and make them into a winning football team. No one player will take them to undefeated status or the playoff games. But one coach with his collection of talented 3 and 4 star players will. Tressel made no mistakes, he knows what he's doing for the team. He, after all, is the Mastermind.
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I think you misunderstood my comment. Stxbuck said that there weren't enough players, year in, year out, that Tressel thought worthy of an offer from tOSU. I was saying that sometimes even Tressel makes mistakes in talent evaluation.
 
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Talent Evaulation

I see your point. He could miss a talent given the conditions or opportunities that the kids had to demonstrate their skills There is so much video available today it would be a daunting task to evaluate everyone equally. Also, not everyone gets to go on the Ted Ginn Sr bus tour. That being said, he could miss someone or never see the talents of others equally as good as those that made the cut.

IMO, there are diamonds in the rough yet to be discovered. Tressel sees all the 5 stars, and hopefully won't overlook a promising 3 or 4 star. That rating system seems to influence a lot of people. I know of one tOSU recruit that recently went from a 3 to a 4 star because he was seen on TV and did well. He was better than the 3 star rating that he had but because of exposure he moved up. How many more are never seen and can play as well? I suspect there are many.
 
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