How terrible are NFL refs?

[osugrad21]

they blow a call every now and then, but IMO they do a much better job than their counterparts in baseball & basketball.

Considering baseball umps do not have the instant replay safety net, but are subjected to computerized strike zone assessment and the most lenient player/coach verbal abuse policy in pro sports, I'd have to disagree with you here.

Those guys do an amazing jobs of making and calling split second calls...they only make the news when they actually miss one.

 

[Thump]

Considering baseball umps do not have the instant replay safety net, but are subjected to computerized strike zone assessment and the most lenient player/coach verbal abuse policy in pro sports, I'd have to disagree with you here.

Those guys do an amazing jobs of making and calling split second calls...they only make the news when they actually miss one.

I totally agree. Well put.

 

[Taosman]

The NFL and now college football realized they have a problem. Poorly trained refs.
The answer to them was instant replay. Brilliant!
But, and here's the big problem with that. Penalties are not reviewable. With instant replay. :2004:

 

[jwinslow]

Considering baseball umps do not have the instant replay safety net, but are subjected to computerized strike zone assessment and the most lenient player/coach verbal abuse policy in pro sports, I'd have to disagree with you here.

Those guys do an amazing jobs of making and calling split second calls...they only make the news when they actually miss one.

I guess I'm referring to the way certain umps call a different type of strike zone. There seems to be a bit of a power struggle at times where the umps are defining what is/isn't part of the strike zone.

That bothers me much more than the blunders that make the news.

 

[osugrad21]

I guess I'm referring to the way certain umps call a different type of strike zone. There seems to be a bit of a power struggle at times where the umps are defining what is/isn't part of the strike zone.

If an umpire takes the game into his own interpretation, the system flags him. I'd say the MLB umps are pretty consistent overall. You ever been behind the plate? Its much tougher than it looks. I have major respect for those guys.

 

[jwinslow]

If an umpire takes the game into his own interpreation, the system flags him. I'd say the MLB umps are pretty consistent overall. You ever been behind the plate? Its much tougher than it looks.

I don't doubt it. And I would admit I was not aware of the system flagging, so I guess my interpretation of reality is at fault here.

 

[ScarletBlood31]

Look no further than the Redskins getting screwed on a replay that clearly showed Allstot was down in before getting in the end zone!

i dont think there was clear evidence showing him down. the announcer kept saying "you can't have the ball past where your elbow is" but that is completely false. you can extend your arm out to just clip the goaline which is all you need.

i think with all of those goal line runs, you get a lot of situations where its hard to make the call because there are so many guys crammed together in one area. and if youre blaming a very close 2 pt. conversion call for a loss, i think you should be focusing on other things (ie: lack of concentration and jumping offsides on extra points)


i still would have to say that basketball is a very tough sport to officiate, being there no instant replays and the game keeps going. but they also have 1/2 the players on the field of play and 1 main area (where the ball is) to watch for most penalties, where as in football you have to watch mostly all 22 players that could commit an infraction.