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How many regular season wins for ND in 2013?

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Apache said:
8-4 seems right, however one of the loses in my 4 number I hope I am wrong about. I want ND to beat Okie. I have tickets to that game.
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Hopefully it'll be a good game for ya. On the plus side ND is 9-1 all time against the Sooners, but this year's team has been sleepwalking through the first 3 games. Defense has been rather weak given the fact they were the team's strength last year and only lost 3 starters and no coaching staff. I was hoping to make this game too, but it looks like this year I'm only hitting MSU, Navy, already did Temple, and maybe USC.
 
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I'm totally re-evaluating ND and Michigan. Both have four, maybe five, loss potential. Michigan catches a break in that they only have Big 10 schools left. ND will have to deal with a trojan team with a real coach in charge.
 
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Yeah, ND has taken a step back for sure. The defense was expected to be close to last year or possibly better given that most of the players were returning including 5 of the front 7. Losing Spond hurt a bit in fall camp, that was unexpected, but Jaylon Smith has played pretty well as a Freshman. I was guessing 2-3 losses prior to the season, but 4-5 is very possible, maybe worse. Theres no offensive identity at this time, and Bob Diaco's game plans on defense have left some head scratchers like the Michigan game.
 
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