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BB73;1110024; said:
I knew there was a reason we let this guy stick around, he let's us practice our life skills! :biggrin:
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Carving fruit is a Life Skill
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At least that's what Jeffrey Dahmer said.
 
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shetuck;1109632; said:
Are you saying that what set your wife apart from the rest of the "control group" :biggrin: were the extra-curricular activities: working since age 12 in a job where she's dealing with people; having to manage subordinates in a fast-paced service-oritented environement; having to take care of herself, etc.?
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In my unbiased opinion, there are two things that set my wife apart (that I can think of right now):

1) Personal Accountability. She takes responsibility for herself and corrects the mistakes that she's not afraid to make.
2) Independence. Reliance on others are secondary to problem solving firsthand.

In essence, she uses the matter just north of the brain stem more than some others. :biggrin:

Shetuck said:
Yeah, I know. I agree. I was talking Maria Montessori specifically (and what she says in her books like "The Absorbent Mind" and some earlier ones). I wasn't referring to her so-called adherents.
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My mistake. I should remember to separate the source from the satellites.
 
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MolGenBuckeye;1109660; said:
Hey! I may not have learned much in school while I was becoming an artisan, but I think you just called me intellectually stagnated. :sad2:

I attended a Montessori school up through 3rd grade, and public school from then on out. We had the opportunity for hands-on chemistry, speech and debate, and all sorts of things that you can't get in public elementary school. We did have applied "classes" where specific topics were covered, but you were also free to apply yourself to whatever subject you wanted for a good portion of the time. I don't remember any focus on arts over other topics, but perhaps things have changed in the last 20 years.

I thought it was an amazing school, and I remember going to 4th grade with a desire to learn, only to find out that they were behind what we'd been studying by about a year.
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MG:

I owe you, Ryn, and any other Montessori students an apology. I made a blanket statement from a small sampling. I'm sorry.

MG said:
However...

I've also heard horror stories of someone teaching "Montessori" method at a local daycare, which basically meant no discipline, and just letting them run around doing whatever they want, period. That was never my experience, and I feel like it gets a bad rap because of teachers like this who don't really understand the full package.

Like any other school, I think Montessori's effectiveness depends greatly on the caliber of teacher, and probably depends more on the attitude of the student than other methods.
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So very well said. You mentioned the word that I should have utilized in the first place instead of my other descriptive terms: discipline. I'm huge on this matter, and it did indeed lack with the sampling that I was exposed to.

Once again, I apologize for offending you, Ryn and others.
 
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muffler dragon;1110084; said:
MG:

I owe you, Ryn, and any other Montessori students an apology. I made a blanket statement from a small sampling. I'm sorry.



So very well said. You mentioned the word that I should have utilized in the first place instead of my other descriptive terms: discipline. I'm huge on this matter, and it did indeed lack with the sampling that I was exposed to.

Once again, I apologize for offending you, Ryn and others.
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I wish I could give you my life skill of always posting in good taste, but alas, you have to be born with it. Or steal it.
 
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