HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

[Jaxbuck]

As one who distrusts absolutes, here is where I think I am at:

Day just had. A massive cohort of talent go through to the NFL the past two years. Even at a place like OSU , 13 guys two years in a row (or something close to that) is a MASSIVE talent drain.

Reminds me somewhat of Tressel in ‘04 after that NC had all washed through. We looked human and lots of questions started.

I remember how bad that year felt and I also remember how he pulled it together at the end and used The Game to springboard into the next cycle of great years.

So that was Tressel. I’d use it as a comp to see how Day does in comparison.

Feels similar enough.

 

[Gunlife]

As one who distrusts absolutes, here is where I think I am at:

Day just had. A massive cohort of talent go through to the NFL the past two years. Even at a place like OSU , 13 guys two years in a row (or something close to that) is a MASSIVE talent drain.

Reminds me somewhat of Tressel in ‘04 after that NC had all washed through. We looked human and lots of questions started.

I remember how bad that year felt and I also remember how he pulled it together at the end and used The Game to springboard into the next cycle of great years.

So that was Tressel. I’d use it as a comp to see how Day does in comparison.

Feels similar enough.

So we give him 2 more years?

Tressels teams still played hard.

Tressel had a backup QB that could not look lost. QB was Days calling card, how the fuck are his backups so bad? Ok I came back to edit this post, Belisari, Beckman, and Bauserman were all under Tressel. Soo I am definitely wearing some rose colored glasses here. I am just frustrated. I dont want to be 60 and remember these good Ole days as the lastime OSU was relevant.

Tressels teams did not have constant stupid penalties.

Tressels teams did not play a zone that leaves the middle of the field completely open every 3rd and long. If Day doesn't blowup the defense this week like he did for the 24 playoff run, then maybe I will call for him to be fired after the year.

I concede this is the hardest schedule I can ever remember OSU facing, but I can't recall a time they ever got beat this bad back to back. OREGON went to backups in the 4th quarter...this is OSU not Akron.

This isn't Days fault, but in the NIL area Day is going to have to work his ass off to not lose a bunch of young talent.

IMO Day is mentally fried and needs to take a year off and build backup his career as an OC somewhere.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

@Gunlife Check out ohio states 1996 schedule.

 

[lvbuckeye]

It had been 5,467 days since Ohio State lost back to back games.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

It had been 5,467 days since Ohio State lost back to back games.

And by that I assume you mean back-to-back regular season games.

Indiana and Miami were back to back IIRC

 

[Elephant]

As one who distrusts absolutes, here is where I think I am at:

Day just had. A massive cohort of talent go through to the NFL the past two years. Even at a place like OSU , 13 guys two years in a row (or something close to that) is a MASSIVE talent drain.

Reminds me somewhat of Tressel in ‘04 after that NC had all washed through. We looked human and lots of questions started.

I remember how bad that year felt and I also remember how he pulled it together at the end and used The Game to springboard into the next cycle of great years.

So that was Tressel. I’d use it as a comp to see how Day does in comparison.

Feels similar enough.

Agreed. My only thing is we get beat Michigan or the masses will come for Day.

 

[buckeyebri]

Agreed. My only thing is we got to beat Michigan or the masses will come for Day.

If they go ala PSU last year and lose at home to Michigan, his goose is cooked

 

[sparcboxbuck]

As one who distrusts absolutes, here is where I think I am at:

Day just had. A massive cohort of talent go through to the NFL the past two years. Even at a place like OSU , 13 guys two years in a row (or something close to that) is a MASSIVE talent drain.

Reminds me somewhat of Tressel in ‘04 after that NC had all washed through. We looked human and lots of questions started.

I remember how bad that year felt and I also remember how he pulled it together at the end and used The Game to springboard into the next cycle of great years.

So that was Tressel. I’d use it as a comp to see how Day does in comparison.

Feels similar enough.

I hope you're right about this. Candidly, I think I may be a bit less forgiving(?) than you. Clearly the talent drain has been significant. I've considered that as I've been thinking about this year, myself. But then I wonder if that's a bit of an excuse. I'd feel better about attributing the issues heavily toward talent drain if the coaching decisions, including personnel, scheme -- both sides of the ball -- and development of players were better.

 

[dragurd]

At the very least someone on D needs to step up and have some fucking pride. As janky as those performances were they still were winnable if the D played like top 15-20 D they looked previous to that. Instead it's like they quit when Sayin got hurt.

 

[lvbuckeye]

 

[Gunlife]

At the very least someone on D needs to step up and have some fucking pride. As janky as those performances were they still were winnable if the D played like top 15-20 D they looked previous to that. Instead it's like they quit when Sayin got hurt.

Ya the quitting is what I am most disturbed with. Your wearing the Scarlet and Grey. Silver Bullets. SHOW some fucking pride.

 

[Gunlife]

Question is irrelevant due to NIL. It can change in the blink of an eye now.

 

[dragurd]

Question is irrelevant due to NIL. It can change in the blink of an eye now.

Yep could inherit better make the wrong hire and the whole team leaves

 

[OregonBuckeye]

At the very least someone on D needs to step up and have some fucking pride. As janky as those performances were they still were winnable if the D played like top 15-20 D they looked previous to that. Instead it's like they quit when Sayin got hurt.

When Patricia calls almost nothing but soft prevent defense the entire game it doesn't help with the aggression

 

[1926Buckeyes]

I hope you're right about this. Candidly, I think I may be a bit less forgiving(?) than you. Clearly the talent drain has been significant. I've considered that as I've been thinking about this year, myself. But then I wonder if that's a bit of an excuse. I'd feel better about attributing the issues heavily toward talent drain if the coaching decisions, including personnel, scheme -- both sides of the ball -- and development of players were better.

Anything can be conveyed as an excuse, but there are reasonable ones and reaches. IMO the talent vacuum is reasonable, but I also blame Day and Pantoni for poor talent evals and letting Thurman leave. The RB room is without a 30+ run since the opener, zero edge talent, an LB room that is stuck in transition, and an OL that can’t pass block. A lack of separation in the 2 deep has led to too much rotation, and it’s hard to make a scheme work with significant limitations.

I give the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt for good and bad reasons. I think blaming coaches is the easiest thing to do because it doesn’t require much evaluation and it’s easy to dream up another coach who does it better. I’ve also been hearing this same stuff since early Tressel years. The grass is always greener, and OSU coaches are only good because of talent etc. Meanwhile, many programs have made mediocre or terrible hires that have set the program back for 5-10 years. OSU has remained consistently great by being patient.