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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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Serious question for the board.

What Buckeye team(s) have you ever seen that:
  • Were THIS dominant THIS early, AND
  • Were still as far from their potential as the 2019 Buckeyes are right now
I’ve been watching the Buckeyes for over 50 years. I can’t think of a single team that meets both criteria.

There have been a fair few teams that were dominant early over the years. There have been a fair few that had a lot of room under their ceiling this early. Has any team you’ve seen checked both boxes the way this one does?
 
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2016 was the last time they were this dominant this early but the offense clearly had a low ceiling. 2010 looked dominant early too but not quite as high of a ceiling. I guess 98 or 96
The 1996 team was really dominant the first four games: Beat Rice 70-7, Pitt 72-0, ND (at ND) 29-16, and Ped State 38-7. Then went to Damp Cramhole and won a 17-14 slugfest in week 5 and scored a whopping nine points in The Game.
 
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Had to think about where to put this; I guess this will do...

Serious question for the board.

What Buckeye team(s) have you ever seen that:
  • Were THIS dominant THIS early, AND
  • Were still as far from their potential as the 2019 Buckeyes are right now
I’ve been watching the Buckeyes for over 50 years. I can’t think of a single team that meets both criteria.

There have been a fair few teams that were dominant early over the years. There have been a fair few that had a lot of room under their ceiling this early. Has any team you’ve seen checked both boxes the way this one does?
Honestly I haven't seen this before. I told my dad after the UC game that this is the most dominant team I've ever seen in the S&G.

Only other team was 2006. Troy was in command from game 1 and that offense could've set records had Tressel given them the opportunity. However I think we all knew the defense wasn't quite as good even though they were a top 10 defense if I recall.

I like how you put it... they have dominated in every way but there's so much they can improve on.

How many dropped INTs and fumbles that were recovered has the defense had for example? 3 fumbles against FAU, 2 fumbles and an INT against UC, and shoot Proctor himself missed 2 INTs vs Indiana. If we convert those more often that puts the offense in short field situations.

The offense will become more explosive as the years go because JF will start to connect on the deep throws. Once that happens good night this offense will be impossible to defend.
 
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The 1996 team was really dominant the first four games: Beat Rice 70-7, Pitt 72-0, ND (at ND) 29-16, and Ped State 38-7. Then went to Damp Cramhole and won a 17-14 slugfest in week 5 and scored a whopping nine points in The Game.

It’s hard to tell if they just didn’t hit their ceiling, but I’ve always thought of 96 as a team that peaked early. I think they started out pretty close to their ceiling, but who knows? Same with 98 for me; one of the best teams ever, Germaine had already had enough experience to be pretty close to his ceiling right out of the gate iirc.
 
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It’s hard to tell if they just didn’t hit their ceiling, but I’ve always thought of 96 as a team that peaked early. I think they started out pretty close to their ceiling, but who knows? Same with 98 for me; one of the best teams ever, Germaine had already had enough experience to be pretty close to his ceiling right out of the gate iirc.


always felt like Coop and staff always unloaded the playbook early and peaked too soon like you mentioned
 
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See it’s hard to say because we aren’t playing a large OOC opponent this year for a change. They’ve certainly been very impressive defensively; there’s no arguing that sans the second half of FAU.

I’m not sold on being able to throw the ball well consistently against formidable secondaries so the only way to gauge that will be to play better teams. The answers are coming soon.
 
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See it’s hard to say because we aren’t playing a large OOC opponent this year for a change. They’ve certainly been very impressive defensively; there’s no arguing that sans the second half of FAU.

I’m not sold on being able to throw the ball well consistently against formidable secondaries so the only way to gauge that will be to play better teams. The answers are coming soon.

I agree with this, because it’s hard to know what Fields’ ceiling is.

Will he get better and faster at seeing the field and deciding if/where to throw? Some QBs do, some seem incapable of getting beyond a certain point where that is concerned. If he can develop that skill to half of what Haskins was, the ceiling is... pretty special
 
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See it’s hard to say because we aren’t playing a large OOC opponent this year for a change. They’ve certainly been very impressive defensively; there’s no arguing that sans the second half of FAU.

I’m not sold on being able to throw the ball well consistently against formidable secondaries so the only way to gauge that will be to play better teams. The answers are coming soon.
The Sparty game imo is going to tell us a lot about where this offense is. If we somehow put 400-500 yards and 30+ on Sparty's defense, I think we can confidently call the offense elite. Sparty's defense is a good as their offense is bad.
 
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Had to think about where to put this; I guess this will do...

Serious question for the board.

What Buckeye team(s) have you ever seen that:
  • Were THIS dominant THIS early, AND
  • Were still as far from their potential as the 2019 Buckeyes are right now
I’ve been watching the Buckeyes for over 50 years. I can’t think of a single team that meets both criteria.

There have been a fair few teams that were dominant early over the years. There have been a fair few that had a lot of room under their ceiling this early. Has any team you’ve seen checked both boxes the way this one does?

Great question. Maybe '06? Although Troy was close to his ceiling most of that season.

To go along with this question, I always play the 'What 1 player from the past would you add to each side of the ball' and this year it's really tough to decide. Can't think of a more well-rounded team. Maybe I'd choose a DE for depth and dominance and an OT just to make sure they can deal with an elite pass rush. But so far, neither of those positions have holes. I could just as easily add Ryan Shazier and Elliott, or David Boston and Antoine Winfield.

See it’s hard to say because we aren’t playing a large OOC opponent this year for a change. They’ve certainly been very impressive defensively; there’s no arguing that sans the second half of FAU.

I’m not sold on being able to throw the ball well consistently against formidable secondaries so the only way to gauge that will be to play better teams. The answers are coming soon.

It's certainly early, and I'm a bit frustrated by the lack of a good OOC challenge to gauge the team. Right now, Fields will struggle to decide and deliver quickly against a great defense. I think he'll get there, just depends on how long it takes.

I will say (and I get you're not arguing with this), Indiana isn't great, but a 41 point road win without really trying in the 4th is pretty damn impressive.
 
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