• Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
  • Consider registering! Fewer and higher quality ads, no emails you don't want, access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Even if you just want to lurk, there are a lot of good reasons to register!

HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

I would add two things:
1) The odds are much higher that once a pattern of behavior/performance emerges, it will stay the same than they are that the person just flips a switch and gets better.

2) if someone does think the light is going to go on any minute now ask yourself this; of all the slightly troubling issues that emerged in ‘18 as the OC, ‘19 and ‘20 are any getting better? Or are they more acute now 5 years removed from inheriting the monster that Urban built?

More acute imo. It feels a little worse this year because in 2022 I felt really good about the season and rebounding. This is the worst 5-0 has felt and it’s like we can see two losses coming from a mile away. The train light is there and the car is stuck on the track it seems.

But then again I thought UM would blast us in 2018, but that was then and things are different. It just seems like there are so many variables contributing to this looming sense of pending failure and it’s really weird.

I think we will see what’s what after PSU one way or the other so I’ll reserve the “fuck it all” if it comes to it in about 10 days.
 
Upvote 0
The OL issue is more acute, but the defense has gotten much better and actually feels like it's stable for the first time since 2016.

This team isn't good enough yet, but they're showing their floor and it's better than in '16, '18, or '21. That's what keeps me positive. They had a soft reset after ND and McCord needs to string together more games so he doesn't revert back to first quarter at Indiana. OL issues are bad, but also very fixable. Guys need to be more decisive about getting to the 2nd level.
 
Upvote 0
Here is where I’m at, not that anyone asked…Cautiously optimistic, yet turning pessimistic.

I think Ryan Day is a premier pass play designer and passing game coordinator. I think he’s probably the best in the country at identifying pass plays based on defensive alignment. I think he’s a top level communicator and story teller. I think he also thinks he is better than he is at calling a complete game.

It feels like Jim Knowles has a Ferrari, but it’s held together with bubble gum. We know from his history that he can get a lot out of lower recruits, so why can’t he get what he needs out of 5 and 4 star recruits at every position. I think he’s adapted his defense to limit the big play, and maybe this is really year 1 instead of year 2 it shows on the calendar. I think another portion comes down to development.

Personally, I don’t think Ryan Day is going to get us a championship. He has shown an ability to talk the talk and recruits at an extremely high level - maybe even higher than Urban, if you believe the stars (he even has Urban’s talent evaluator and S&C coach). He has not shown the ability to develop the talent outside of the QB and WR positions. He has not shown the ability to make successful personnel decisions. I don’t see more Ohio State players being faster, stronger, better conditioned, or better coached.

He has not shown the ability to develop coaches. I say develop because supposedly he is working with the best money can buy. Yet, he doesn’t have a coaching tree except Hafley, which makes it a coaching stump.

And I don’t think he recognizes that he’s basically getting Tresselballed by Jim Harbaugh the last 2 Novembers. All Michigan has done is draw up a couple trick plays, played sound football, and waited for Ohio State’s mistakes and capitalized. Ryan Day has taken the bait and played right into it, trying to show why his team is faster or more physical.

I will give myself an out (of course) and say Coach Day can be that guy IF he can evolve. Some coaches win it all their second year and get fired within 2 years, some don’t win it all until their 10th year. What you have you be worried about is those that don’t win it at all. Unfortunately, he hasn’t shown a desire to adapt himself as much as adapt the situation around him. Then again, isn’t that the downfall of most people? Hell, the two coaches before him each won a championship and arguably squandered more talent and opportunities than any coaches in the nation, and Buckeye history, because they had more of both and couldn’t evolve.

Hopefully this corrects the cosmic football alignment and sets the Buckeyes on the path, but I’m losing hope.

I agree with much of what you say, but this catches my eye: "5 and 4 star recruits at every position." I think we have all been taken in by the hype around recruits and recruiting. We're looking at 16 - 18 year olds playing high school level football and assuming that what they've accomplished at that level will naturally transfer to the next. It ain't necessarily so. The last two games against Michigan are proof.
 
Upvote 0
5 OL starters from the last two TTUN games are in the league. Three are starting and have played well.

On the DL in recent years, Dre'Mont Jones, DaVon Hamilton, Cooper and Harrison have all looked more dynamic in the league than they did at OSU against lesser competition.

If the talent was the issue, guys would be flaming out at the next level. For the most part, they're not. There's something in the team culture right now that is making guys passive and I don't know what it is or who is responsible for it but it's clearly an internal issue at OSU.

We've had lots of changeover in the last three years on both lines and the problems are the same. The constant there is the coaching, not the players.
 
Upvote 0
5 OL starters from the last two TTUN games are in the league. Three are starting and have played well.

On the DL in recent years, Dre'Mont Jones, DaVon Hamilton, Cooper and Harrison have all looked more dynamic in the league than they did at OSU against lesser competition.

If the talent was the issue, guys would be flaming out at the next level. For the most part, they're not. There's something in the team culture right now that is making guys passive and I don't know what it is or who is responsible for it but it's clearly an internal issue at OSU.

We've had lots of changeover in the last three years on both lines and the problems are the same. The constant there is the coaching, not the players.
Alright, I’ll say it. Urban promoted mental toughness. Day promotes mental health. Unfortunately, those two things are diabolically opposed to one another, and one of them is probably the deciding factor between greatness and average.
 
Upvote 0
Alright, I’ll say it. Urban promoted mental toughness. Day promotes mental health. Unfortunately, those two things are diabolically opposed to one another, and one of them is probably the deciding factor between greatness and average.
Wait just one damn tick mate, are you saying because I'm mental that I'm not tough?!?!? :smash:
 
Upvote 0
pulp-fiction-winston-wolfe.gif


"ranked" is a pretty subjective criteria to make an argument with. Ranked by which service? Ranked when they played or at the end of the year? Any point during the year?

He's 1-2 in The Game and 1-3 in the CFP. No ambiguity at all in those numbers.

Beating Penn State today was great but it was fun last year too.
 
Upvote 0
Back
Top