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HB Dontre 'DeSoto' Wilson (Official Thread)

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Hstead said:
I played running back in college and I was a north/south guy, so I know all about running a football. If you break contain, it is what we used to call AMF (adios mother f=er). The jet isn't designed to be turned up quickly. There were several occasions where Jalin turned it up way too soon. When you have speed that kills you want to get the corner, that is the whole point and why you hear guys talking about getting the corner. Break contain and it is all she wrote. The defense does not want you on the sideline outside of contain.
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Ok, I didn't play RB in college, just in HS, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I understand the rationale behind a jet sweep. I realize you aren't going to turn the jet sweep up into the line, but the edge should be set at the end of the line of scrimmage so I don't think any good coach in America is teaching their players to run east and west to the sidelines. If there is a hole to run between around the hashes, you get your shoulders square and you get going north and south. The longer you run east and west, the longer you allow the LB's to scrape and pursue.
 
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Hstead said:
He broke some tackles in this video. I think he is shiftier than Jalin. They are both weapons but we need not forget how good Wilson can and will be.

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People who use slow-mo to feature speedsters should be smacked in the face with a large salmon. At least it was only used briefly.

The difference in quickness and strength is quite apparent between the two seasons. Good stuff.
 
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mendensa said:
Ok, I didn't play RB in college, just in HS, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I understand the rationale behind a jet sweep. I realize you aren't going to turn the jet sweep up into the line, but the edge should be set at the end of the line of scrimmage so I don't think any good coach in America is teaching their players to run east and west to the sidelines. If there is a hole to run between around the hashes, you get your shoulders square and you get going north and south. The longer you run east and west, the longer you allow the LB's to scrape and pursue.
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I didn't stay at a Holiday Express last night, but our jet sweep guys were always taught "hash, numbers, sideline" downhill. Obviously if there is a huge hole turn it up but at the same time, the goal is to get on the edge and break contain if possible. The defense is going to be taught to string the play out and they are going to have someone responsible for contain. If you block contain or outrun, like I said AMF.

I don't think we disagree too much, I just think when you have a guy that is supposed to be the fastest man on the field, he shouldn't turn it up TOO SOON, and should give the play a chance to develop and look to get on the edge if he is that player. I just felt like Jalin ALWAYS turned it up and never really gave some of the plays a chance to develop and look for the edge. Some RBs look for the sideline too much and some turn it up too soon, and some never seem to make a mistake and always get the most out of nearly every play. I just wish Jalin would look to get the edge more often like Wilson does. Just my opinion.

Part of it might be because I was a north/south guy and didn't have the speed or ability to get on the edge. My coach told me that if he found me on the sideline running the ball I should just stay there for the next play. Jealousy maybe?
 
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Hstead said:
I didn't stay at a Holiday Express last night, but our jet sweep guys were always taught "hash, numbers, sideline" downhill. Obviously if there is a huge hole turn it up but at the same time, the goal is to get on the edge and break contain if possible. The defense is going to be taught to string the play out and they are going to have someone responsible for contain. If you block contain or outrun, like I said AMF.

I don't think we disagree too much, I just think when you have a guy that is supposed to be the fastest man on the field, he shouldn't turn it up TOO SOON, and should give the play a chance to develop and look to get on the edge if he is that player. I just felt like Jalin ALWAYS turned it up and never really gave some of the plays a chance to develop and look for the edge. Some RBs look for the sideline too much and some turn it up too soon, and some never seem to make a mistake and always get the most out of nearly every play. I just wish Jalin would look to get the edge more often like Wilson does. Just my opinion.

Part of it might be because I was a north/south guy and didn't have the speed or ability to get on the edge. My coach told me that if he found me on the sideline running the ball I should just stay there for the next play. Jealousy maybe?
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See, we agree. By the way, I did watch some clips of Jalin last year since the start of our conversation. I was able to pick out a few different occasions where if he would have been a bit more patient and waited a split second longer for his guys to set up their blocks he maybe could have broken a couple more long ones.

With another off-season perfecting the offense and another year in the weight room, I think both could have breakout years this falll, especially Dontre. He just needs to keep getting stronger to shed some of those arm tackles on the perimeter. I'm looking forward to seeing their progression within the special teams as well. We had so many "almost game breakers" last year. One broken tackle away from huge plays. This team has weapons everywhere and depth they have never had before.....Not that I have seen in my 36 years.
 
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jwinslow said:
He ran a lot stronger and quicker last year. The s&c work was obvious and the no longer resembled the "stompy" runner from his freshman season.

He's still quicker than he is fast and does not possess any physical advantages over Jalin but as a 6th to 8th weapon in this offense, he is pretty useful.
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He's also made a few acrobatic catches. I thought his hands had improved a lot in 2014 and the progress made working w/the receiver group was very evident.
I don't know if Wilson will ever be an early round draft pick... but he's doing perfectly fine AFAIC. He and Jalin still appear to be 1a/1b in some order, and currently I think a position change by Brax would be the only thing that could upset that -- which now appears unlikely.

pnuts34 said:
And don't forget that each HB can also take carries as well. That's why I don't see EzE having the same stats as the previous year. With all of Dontre, Parris, Curtis and Jalin being able to get carries, that will be a healthy stable of carries to keep guys healthy. Especially since all of those guys came into OSU being more comfortable carrying the ball. There's an insane amount of versatility, and not to sound like a homer, but idk of a team in the country with so many players that can play multiple positions at high levels.
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This strikes me as a Urban hallmark. When you have to account for a player being effective in 2 positions, it puts the defense under a lot of pressure. It all starts with the QB doubling as a RB (or FB in Tebows case) -- forcing the defense to account for the QB as a runner seems to be what allows Urban to run power out of the spread formation. But you also see it in the other skill positions as he develops his teams (especially the Metcalf role), and that finally showed itself as a major part of the offense last year (we saw it some in 2013 via Wilson's frosh year, but not a lot and not consistently.)
 
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FORMER HIGHLY-TOUTED RECRUITS WITH SOMETHING TO PROVE IN FALL CAMP

DONTRE WILSON
The Percy Harvin comparisons are inevitable for any explosively athletic recruit Urban Meyer lands and who eventually settles into the hybrid position. Perhaps Jalin Marshall, Curtis Samuel or, even, Wilson will redefine it one day.

Unfortunately for Wilson, who was one of the first major out-of-state recruits Meyer reeled in earlier in his tenure, he appears to be running out of opportunities. Some of that is purely bad luck. He fractured his foot against Michigan State, last season, and never fully recovered from it. Marshall was extremely successful in his place.

At the same time, the coaching staff's trust in Wilson may be waning. In some ways it is self-inflicted. He is suspended for the opener at Virginia Tech and Braxton Miller is, now, another obstacle preventing him from receiving touches.

A quote from Wilson's freshman year still stands out to me.

"He’s got to become a football player. Right now, he’s a novelty," Meyer said in October 2013, via our Eric Seger. "We're working really hard to make him a football player. Right now he's a hood ornament."

We know what Wilson is capable of, the question is if he can ever become a consistent weapon.



Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...recruits-with-something-to-prove-in-fall-camp
 
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scarletngray said:
Impressed with his play against IU. Good hustle and saved a TD on the INT return. Did a nice job returning kicks also. His blocking has really improved as well.
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He is looking better and you can see the effort he is giving. He really wants some carries and you can see it by the way he pushes himself. He's due for a big game and I hope it comes this weekend with out WR depth taking a hit Saturday.
 
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