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exhawg

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I apologize if this should be in another thread, but I want it out where people can read it rather than buried in a thread. Feel free to merge it if needed.

I’m tired of all of the sky is falling, what are we going to do now posts that I’ve seen since I got back to my computer last night. We just lost the closest of games to the #2 team in the nation! Do I think JT’s play calling was perfect Saturday? No, but it was good enough that he put us in a position to win, and that’s all we can ask for. The players need to make plays, and unfortunately many of our guys didn’t make enough plays to win the game. I know they all played their butts off and will come back next week and do it again. The college football season is so long that it is too much to expect the team to go out and win every game. In my mind we are still one of the top 5 teams in the nation, because I think we could go out and beat any other team. Unfortunately, Texas was able to make a couple more plays than us and pulled out the win this time. I would love to have a rematch with them in the Rose Bowl because I still think that OSU can beat them.
I give Texas all the credit in the world for coming in and winning that game in the Shoe. Vince Young is much better than I thought he would be. He made a few amazing plays even after getting smacked around for much of the game. Young is the only QB to leave the Shoe a Heisman Candidate and I give him props for a great game.
As far as our QB play goes, I think both Zwick and Smith had good and bad things happen through the course of the game. I get pissed off when people (Demetrius Stanley) bash Zwick for one mistake he made at the end of the game. Zwick’s passes were far more actuate than Smith’s as a whole. He can’t be faulted for drops when he hits guys in the hands. Even though I’m sure JT will never say it Zwick is a better 2 minute type of QB than Smith, which is why Zwick was out there for the last drive. Smith made a couple good throws, but he was also off on several of them and he seemed to run too much, either by design or play calling. Personally, I thought that JT would go with Smith on the last drive just because we had 2:35 and only needed 30-40 yards to get Huston into fg range. Conversely, Zwick has more 2 minute experience (Marshall and Northwestern) and has been successful. IMO he tried to do too much and it resulted in a fumble. It is a mistake to place all the blame on Zwick for one bad play, when so many other players made mistakes that were just as costly. JT was in a no win situation, because if he has sent Smith out there and he hadn’t lead them to victory everyone would be asking why he didn’t put Zwick in. In the post game show Demetrius Stanley literally bashed Zwick and called him a terrible QB for half an hour. edit- I wish he would get fired.
In closing I think that this weekend proved that we overrated the Big 10 this year. I am even more certain than ever that we have the talent to run the rest of the schedule and win the Big 10 assuming that someone will beat Purdue and Wisconsin at some point. JT’s play calling isn’t as bad as many people think, just think if we were still going out and running the power I every play? Half of the teams go out and lose every week. It just happened that this was the week that we ran into a team that played a little better than we did. I would like everyone to honestly ask themselves, How many college football teams do you think the Bucks can’t beat? Personally I can’t think of 1. It could be worse, we could all be Michigan fans.
 
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I guess I crossed some sort of line. I don't see my post anymore. My bad, boys. He just really pissed me off that night.

Edit: I did cross the line. My apologies to all BPers. I didn't realize it at the time of posting, DS just got under my skin a bit.
 
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Mr. Incredible said:
I guess I crossed some sort of line. I don't see my post anymore. My bad, boys. He just really pissed me off that night.

Edit: I did cross the line. My apologies to all BPers. I didn't realize it at the time of posting, DS just got under my skin a bit.

Dang, I missed what you originally said... dang it! :biggrin: So I should be glad that I didn't have a radio to listen to the radio shows after the game as I decided to take out my frustration by drinking til 2am and then passing out with the woman.

Should I even ask what was said by DS? Or just that he bashed Zwick for the whole show?

Oh, and to get back on point... GREAT POST EXHAWG!
 
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I'm pretty sure it could be worse...I am actually scared to visit any of the other sites for fear of the meltdowns...Buck up, boys. OSU made some mistakes, but so did Texas. I don't mind analyzing, or even discussing the bad things and mistakes, but exhawg is right...the sky is definitely not falling.
 
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Piney said:
Dang, I missed what you originally said... dang it! :biggrin: So I should be glad that I didn't have a radio to listen to the radio shows after the game as I decided to take out my frustration by drinking til 2am and then passing out with the woman.

Should I even ask what was said by DS? Or just that he bashed Zwick for the whole show?

Oh, and to get back on point... GREAT POST EXHAWG!

It would be both inappropriate and disrespectful to repost, but I didn't agree with the poor stance that DS applied post game. I also commented on his choice of (pink) clothing (also inappropriately). It wasn't the stance he took, but rather the unprofessional way he communicated it. I was called on it by an Administrator who was 1000% correct on calling me for it. I hope this post wasn't too "Jim Tressel-esque" considering my ability to dance around this particular question... :biggrin:

It was a great post, HAWG.
 
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exhawg said:
I’m tired of all of the sky is falling, what are we going to do now posts that I’ve seen since I got back to my computer last night.

The sky is definitely not falling, YET. (I add the "yet" because I can't see the future. Ohio State may lose the rest of their games. I don't think they will, but, in that case, the sky will have crashed to the ground and we're all done. But losing to #2 Texas or #2 Miami or #2 Oberlin is not a sign the sky is falling.)

With what I saw of Michigan, and Iowa, and other teams I saw in the Big Ten this weekend, the Bucks can possibly run the rest of the table, and go into a BCS bowl game 10-1. Losing early to an awesome team will not hurt the Bucks as much as losing late would. Unfortunately, the Bucks are no longer in the driver's seat to Pasadena. USC needs to lose once, probably twice, if Texas wins out, and there are no other undefeated teams, if OSU is going to make it to the Rose Bowl. But it can happen.

I said it in another thread: how great of a re-match would it be to see Texas and Ohio State in the Rose Bowl this year?
 
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Piney said:
Dang, I missed what you originally said... dang it! :biggrin: So I should be glad that I didn't have a radio to listen to the radio shows after the game as I decided to take out my frustration by drinking til 2am and then passing out with the woman.

Should I even ask what was said by DS? Or just that he bashed Zwick for the whole show?

Oh, and to get back on point... GREAT POST EXHAWG!

Here are a few things I remember. (not exact quotes, but as close as I can remember):

-Smith is 10 times the QB Zwick is.
-I don't know why JT would even put Zwick back in. This is the first time I have ever questioned one of JT's moves
-Zwick played terrible
-Zwick got us down by 10 and Smith single handedly brought us back
-etc.

Thanks for the props guys.
 
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IMO the only overreacting is that coming from folks thinking we need to be told "don't overreact"... I see newbee overreaction... buy rarely have I seen non-newbees getting on the ledge
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
IMO the only overreacting is that coming from folks thinking we need to be told "don't overreact"... I see newbee overreaction... buy rarely have I seen non-newbees getting on the ledge

I don't know if you're referring to my post ("getting on the ledge"), but the post in itself wasn't that bad if it were in a different forum. I think people who saw it would agree. However, with the rules that BP has established (rightfully so) to try to keep this board from sinking to the level of others out there- it was uncalled for. The reason this is important that you understand that is because I appreciate the BP community and don't want to be excommunicated by those who may not know what was said.
 
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MI and Hawg have every right to rip into DStanley...I agree wholeheartedly that he was out of line.

However, we have a standing policy on BP to never trash Buckeyes...except for a lenient policy regarding the old #13 :biggrin:

No big deal at all...
 
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osugrad21 said:
MI and Hawg have every right to rip into DStanley...I agree wholeheartedly that he was out of line.
that's what Mods are for.. to kick ass and take names... when called for... to call for 'timeouts' when the kids get out of line

My post was more intended to newbees like HilgerJ's thread on same topic... hawg has earned the right to tell the planet anything he feels... newbees - have not earned the right... IMO
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
hawg has earned the right to tell the planet anything he feels... newbees - have not earned the right... IMO

Within reason...of course the senior posters on here should and are given more flexibility in their postings, but I like letting newbies have some freedom too...if we slam them too hard right away we drive them away and only get Tibors to stay, and we don't want that.

The key is flaming and we don't tolerate that. Our mods/admins doa great job filtering them out of the system early so i'm happy with how things are going right now
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
that's what Mods are for.. to kick ass and take names... when called for... to call for 'timeouts' when the kids get out of line

My post was more intended to newbees like HilgerJ's thread on same topic... hawg has earned the right to tell the planet anything he feels... newbees - have not earned the right... IMO

Does that mean I can call you a homo? j/k :p

To be fair the other guys on the pregame show were making fun of D. Stanley's suit as well. Mr. Incredible's joke about the suit was pretty funny. The pink fedora Ginn wore to the game last week was kind of funny looking too. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :p
 
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