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GoodLifeSean
Proud to be born in the best state in the Union!
In honor of Pam Ward announcing the OSU/OU game this weekend.
Trickery-deception by stratagem
Trickeration- A song title from Cab Calloway; a term for trickery made up by Pam Ward, the single reason she is the Bane of my existance.
I promise that's the last time I bring that up on the board... That word is to me as FredOU or Fredo of Ohio are to ORD
Trickery-deception by stratagem
Trickeration- A song title from Cab Calloway; a term for trickery made up by Pam Ward, the single reason she is the Bane of my existance.
I promise that's the last time I bring that up on the board... That word is to me as FredOU or Fredo of Ohio are to ORD
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fourteenandoh
My swing feels like an unfolding lawn chair.
"there's not even no crack heads in alaska"
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Irregardless is not a word.
When you do something for a short period of time, you do it momentarily. When you are doing something now, you are doing it currently. If you will be doing something soon, you will be doing it presently.
When you do something for a short period of time, you do it momentarily. When you are doing something now, you are doing it currently. If you will be doing something soon, you will be doing it presently.
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Dryden;1249339; said:
I totally knew someone would say that. :)
I disagree. It is not a word in my English. "Nonstandard" typically means "lots of white trash people say this so we have to give it its due," and I don't believe in that. It takes a long time for so many people to be so stupid as to use a word (or a non-word, as it may be) wrongly so often for it to become standard. We aren't there yet with "irregardless."
20,000 people being wrong in their speech doesn't make their speech right. Dumbasses.
Did I mention I feel strongly about this?
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Dryden;1249339; said:
When in question, always consult the OED:
Chiefly N. Amer.
[Prob. blend of irrespective and regardless.]
In non-standard or humorous use: regardless. 1912 in WENTWORTH Amer. Dial. Dict. 1923 Lit. Digest 17 Feb. 76 Is there such a word as irregardless in the English language? 1934 in WEBSTER (labelled Erron. or Humorous, U.S.). 1938 I. KUHN Assigned to Adventure xxx. 310, I made a grand entrance and suffered immediate and complete obliteration, except on the pay-roll, which functioned automatically to present me with a three-figure cheque every week, ?irregardless?, as Hollywood says. 1939 C. MORLEY Kitty Foyle xxvii. 267 But she can take things in her stride, irregardless what's happened. 1955 Publ. Amer. Dial. Soc. XXIV. 19, I don't think like other people do and irregardless of how much or how little dope would cost me [etc.]. 1970 Current Trends in Linguistics X. 590 She tells the pastor that he should please quit using the word ?irregardless? in his sermons as there is no such word. 1971 M. MCSHANE Man who left Well Enough iv. 96 The sun poured down on Purity irregardless of the fact that it received no welcome.
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3yardsandacloud
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kinch;1249373; said:
The use of a number to start a sentence should be avoided. If it must be done, the number should be spelled out (Twenty-thousand). Irregardless of this point, your premiss is still flawed to a degree. You said " ... doesn't make their speech right". The use of "right" in this sentence certainly means a level of acceptability and not a level of correctness. If you had meant correctness, or level of accuracy, you certainly would have used a less ambiguous word (correct?). Since twenty-thousand (or more) people seem to find such usage agreeable, I would surmise that such usage is acceptable even if it is not technically correct. I have certainly left enough "meat on the bone" to drive this thread for many days to come. If not within my own post, certainly the merits of "Dumbasses." as a one word sentence could be explored.
As a way to draw Mili into the discussion, I will simply add:
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home-and-home series
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Buck Nasty
You'll have nothing and like it
Deety;1248803; said:Yesterday I says, she says to me, you says I says what I only says to the rest of them.
LJB's favorite, "different than," drives me bonkers. This is mainly because I didn't know that rule early on, so sometimes it pops out and I have to facepalm it back in.
You would never make it in Youngstown. That is the description of every conversation I have ever heard up there.... I say's, and then She say's, so I say's back to her. Drives me nuts, then they wrap it up with, Like I said.
Did you see Beanie get hurt on Saturday? Yeah I seen him, or I sawl it.
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3yardsandacloud
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Deety;1249545; said:
Ahh, but I didn't say it wasn't right/acceptable, I said it should be avoided. If you check many sources, you'll find the overwhelming majority DO in fact say the number should be spelled out (or the sentence re-worded to begin with a non-numeric word) ... no exceptions. That, in addition to being technically correct, eliminates any secondary need to capitalize a word following a number written as digits. In other words, do it correctly the first time (spell out the number) instead of following a secondary rule about capitalization. :)
Actually, it's a rule I break all the time, yet I do cap. the following word. The rules for numbers are far too varied. You must spell out one through nine, and any number than can be written with two words or less, must do it at the beginning and end of a sentence, yet not in the middle, not for years, different for numbers that describe amounts or measurements, yet again fractions, on and on and on, much like this sentence. :)
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