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Ginn, Zwick, Smith and Snyder by Tressel

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by NJ-Buckeye, Mar 15, 2005.

  1. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    Well, the odds are that Snyder will take the job IF offered. Anyone have any idea if this happens who would be a possible replacement?

    Thats the best case scenario for Troy.

    In my opinion, I would perfer we move Whitner or Everett over to the corner and save Ginn for offense. Now if we struggle at that position, then we need to look at Ginn.
  2. gregorylee

    gregorylee I'd rather be napping!!

    It is just my opinion but I would think that Ginn would be better suited to play the field corner rather than the boundry where he would be called upon more for run support.
  3. Cornerback6

    Cornerback6 Optimism Lover

    IMO, the loss of Tucker becomes even greater hereif Snyder indeed leaves. Which makes me wonder...if Tucker could have been the lone DC at tOSU, would he have turned the Browns down and stayed in Columbus? I don't know for sure, but it's worth asking I think.

    About Ginn, I would expect to see him at some point very early in the season in the D-Backfield. I think JT knows he has a weapon in Ginn and will save him for special occasions ala Gamble in '02. I don't see him starting opposite Youboty, but rather him getting defensive PT in clutch situations and what not. Whitner I think would make a solid corner though I'm not sure about Everett's man abilities. THOUGH, if they're going to play a load of zone, I feel that either could hold down that flat or deep 3rd IMO.

    Nonetheless, if TG gets a pick, just go ahead and consider it 6.
  4. gregorylee

    gregorylee I'd rather be napping!!

  5. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    IMO we will see a lot of the Ginn family at the 3rd corner spot. That means having JamO (Ginn's adopted bro) and Ginn share time in a nickel package. Whitner/Everett are the clearcut #2 CB in my book. It's a good thing Everett's a good safety, cuz I'm still a little upset that Whitner is being moved to corner. He apparently fought to stay at safety but accepted the coaches' decision. I just am going to miss light's out smashing people regularly rather than only once a game when he gets to tee off on a guy catching a ball in the flats.
  6. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    That's all well and good, but I'd really just be happy if the team showed a fraction of the running game that was there in 2002. Those kids just aren't getting after it, or playing with enough velocity for me to say they're 'explosive and creative.' :tongue2:
  7. TeddyBallgame

    TeddyBallgame Newbie

    Here is how I see it: Ginn should play corner atleast 40% of the time. I have seen him play corner in high school and I believe he is the best corner that we have on the team. The kid wants to play and everyone knows what his potential is at corner so why not? We need to do what gives us the best chance to win games and that is by having Theodore Ginn II out on the field as much as possible. Lights out Whitner and Salley are electric safties that will put the fear of god in opposing players. Jamo should get some P.T backing up Ginn and Youboty while Mitchell and Everett also share some time.
    :osu: :osu: :osu: :osu:
  8. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Well, obviously the coaching staff doesn't think he's the best on the team, or was even in the top three last year, as he didn't play a down at corner. If he were that good of a corner, he would've seen the field on defense.
  9. DCBuckFan

    DCBuckFan Fark You

    Well, i would guess that you are not biased at all :wink:

    I just have a hard time taking by far our most dangerous player, and having him play defense, hence taking away his valuable energy to be that constant threat, a la Reggie Bush. I think he is way to valuable in our offense to take that away, even if it is only 1/3rd the time.

    As has been stated before, I think he'll see maybe some time in red zone situations, but aside from that, at least initially, that will likely be it.
  10. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    taking away valuable energy?!?!?!?

    hell, If I was JT, I'd be teaching him to punt and placekick... and I'd NEVER let him leave the field... I'd make him play an instrument so he had to stay there for halftime too...

    no one would throw a pass on his side of the field... knowing if he got a hand on it, it's six... so that in itself cuts the field by at least 1/3 on passing plays... in HS he defended few passes because he returned almost every interception for a TD... including a 100 yarder...

    disappointingly, I assume he only plays for two more years... and like his father says... use him up...
  11. Yertle

    Yertle Pounding out aggression, turns into obsession

    I have a feeling that the Ginn-at-corner saga will begin very similar to the Gamble-at-corner gamble. Initially, Gamble only played corner in the redzone when EJ wasn't cutting it. That was a huge success, and with EJ continuing to struggle, JT had no choice but to put Gamble in fulltime. Also, remember that the offense had Jenkins and Vance. Gamble was #2 or #3 (depending on where you put Vance), and much less productive in his touches to TD ratio. Near the end of 2002, Gamble was playing about half of the offensive plays and all of the defensive plays. Ginn is WAY TOO valuable to the Buckeye Offense (no offense to Holmes and Gonzo) to play part time on O and fulltime on D.

    Actually, I think Gamble scored 2 TD's in 2002 - one on a reverse and one against PSU while he was playing......CORNER! Also, he was demoted from the punt return job in 2003 because he danced around until someone finally tackled him.

    As a comparison, I think Ginn had 8 TD's in 32 touches last year (25%!). Impressive. You can't give that offensive up.
  12. slickman

    slickman keeping tan

    I have a feeling that you framed it perfectly.

    NJ- You are hilarious. What instrument would it be? The jazz flute?

    I offer up one footbally prayer today: May He Stay Healthy All Season and for that matter Every Day of His Life.
  13. Buckeye513

    Buckeye513 Stable Genius

    I don't think JT wants to be responsible for the sudden death of a 19 year old kid.
  14. Zurp

    Zurp I have misplaced my pants.

    I was thinking about the idea of punting. Zwick punted a couple of times last year (similar to Roethlisberger in Miami(OH)). Put Ginn back there when its time for a short punt.
  15. buckeyeboy

    buckeyeboy Still fortitudinous

    I just hope that Tressel keeps Ginn in the game on both sides of the ball, instead of what he did to Gamble in '03. In '02 Gamble (and the very limited action he saw in '03), Gamble was our most electrifying player on offense, yet in '03 Tressel saved him just for defense. It would be a shame to waste Ginn's talent in the same manner. To the extent that our defense is not in as much need as our offense, therefore, if it means keeping Ginn in the game on the offensive side of the ball, I'd rather see someone else play corner.

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