Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

[hookemhorns2004]

you didn't practice or expect OU to run the ball to the outside? how dumb is your coach?

We totally shut down the passing game. Mark Clayton did shit that game. He had 3 receptions for 17 yards. Jason White passed for 14 of 26 for 113 yards and 2 INT's. Before the OU game, OU had a 2-1 pass run ratio. Thats what we were expecting. BTW, Huff is responsible for 1 of those interceptions.

And what I meant was we didn't plan for sweeps and whatnot, I don't think, b/c we definately didn't know how to contain it.

 

[catdaddyhorn]

So our OkState game, your OkState game, your OU game, and probably any other game that doesn't support your theory are anomalie.


You tried to shut down OU's passing attack, and Peterson went nuts on you (240 yds). You didn't get a single sack in that game. You didn't adjust at halftime to his running, which sounds more like you couldn't than you wouldn't.

So OSU went nuts on you. OU couldn't be stopped.

Exactly how did Morency go nuts on us? He only had a 100 yards on the game where he broke an 68 yard run? And for all of the yards OU gained on us they ended up with 12 points. I guess the Horn defense had a difficult time keeping them out of the endzone.

 

[Pheasant]

Exactly how did Morency go nuts on us? He only had a 100 yards on the game where he broke an 68 yard run? And for all of the yards OU gained on us they ended up with 12 points. I guess the Horn defense had a difficult time keeping them out of the endzone.

Where did it say Morency went nuts?

 

[martinss01]

I sell porn over the internet and do quite well, thank you.

got any openings for a quality control specialist?

 

[hookemhorns2004]

So our OkState game, your OkState game, your OU game, and probably any other game that doesn't support your theory are anomalies. We have a reason to think that our early loses were different, considering there were like 8-10 starers that were replaced (including some slackers like Ginn, Gonzalez, and Smith)... the argument abaout OkState is like us saying Ramonce's stats are irrelevant b/c he ripped off one big run during one game. please.

In the RB, your team gave up that field position (and I am not cinvinced it won't do so again). but beyond that, why is it so impossible to keep them from scoring TDs every time?

Let's look at the OkState game, a very average passer completed just 12 passes and threw for 224 yards. Despite turning it around after a 35 pont blowout in the first half (that sounds like an unbeatable defense that won't have DJ anymore)... you only had one sack all game.

I think much of your overconfidence comes from beating up on big12 teams that are not very good. OU looked awful good the last two years and then got dismantled late in teh seasons.

You tried to shut down OU's passing attack, and Peterson went nuts on you (240 yds). You didn't get a single sack in that game. You didn't adjust at halftime to his running, which sounds more like you couldn't than you wouldn't.

So OSU went nuts on you. OU couldn't be stopped. Brown kept kicking to Breaston, and rarely kept them out of the endzone. Heck, even TxTech, who clearly could not matchup well talentwise/physically (and therefore you had your way with them offensively)... racked up 400 yds of passing yards (they didn't pretend to have a running game).

At some point your defensive struggles against good teams have to say something. They can't all be anomalies.

Don't forget we replaced our entire receiving corps last year. We wern't as loaded as an "entire" team last year as we are this year. About the OU game, we had a "bend but don't break offense." You guys have talked all about that. So should we. AP ran all he want between the 40's but when it came to about the 35 yard line, we stopped him. It was 6-0 till late in the 3rd quarter. The last TD was almost a trash TD IMO. I don't feel like I have to justify our defensive performance. If you want to looked at biased facts, we held them to less points than the number 1 team in the nation.

Our defense against OKState sucked first half. I don't know how to defend what Greg Robinson was thinking. But something was off. But we made appropriate adjustments at half time.

Again, who cares how many yards Sand Aggy had, their measly 21 points was way below average. And, Texas Tech sucked soo bad too last year. Its not like they blew out Cal in the bowl game or anything, don't let the score fool you. This was the same team that almost upset USC. Tech had one of the highest scoring offenses last year, and we didn't shut them down?

Oh yea, Kansas almost beat us. But we had double the yardage as they do. You can't argue both, sides at the same time.

 

[jwinslow]

Another example of poor coaching by Texas (yes we know, Chizik will solve everything).

Coming into that game, Peterson definitely WAS proven as a runner, despite what was stated above. 87 carries for 551 yds and 6 TDs, averaging 6.3 yards a pop!

I seriously doubt that he never ran outside, but even still, it was apparent he was a rare breed of size and power, and therefore capable of going outside.

Taking away the pass is meaningless when he rolls up over 200 yds on you on the ground. Who needs to pass when the opponent can't score and can't stop the run?

 

[hookemhorns2004]

sorry, but im getting tired of all of these excuses. your new coaches could be worse than your old ones, how the hell do you know? have they coached a game yet? NO! they havent proven anything on game day so its complete b.s. to talk about how great they are doing.

A 20-year veteran of coaching, Chizik came to the Longhorns from Auburn where he spent three seasons as defensive coordinator (2002-04). He was recently named the 2004 Broyles Award winner, honoring the nation's top assistant coach.

Chizik's defenses at Auburn ranked among the nation's top five in total defense and among the top 10 in scoring defense over the past two years.

He believes the talent is better at Texas, especially at 2 deep.

 

[jwinslow]

yay for chizik. he may do well. the point is he hasn't coached at texas with these players. there are many DCs that have switched jobs after tons of success and not reproduced it. We'll see on the 10th.

 

[scarletngrey11]

why has texas had 3 new Defensive coordinators in the last 3 years? im not trying to stir anything up or anything im just wondering, did they not perform as well as expected or did they leave for another school? im pretty sure one of them did?

 

[xrayrandy]

Even though Coach Reese's 2001 defense lead the nation, he was thought to be a weak link preventing us from advancing further. He was sacrificed after the 2002 season at the insistance of some alumni. (Mack fought for and kept our OC) I honestly don't know where he landed. His replacement Coach Robinson is now the head coach at Syracuse.

One thing Chizik has done is left most of Robinson's defense in place, so that the players do not have to adapt to more new things than necessary. The transition appears to be very smooth so far.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

We totally shut down the passing game. Mark Clayton did shit that game. He had 3 receptions for 17 yards. Jason White passed for 14 of 26 for 113 yards and 2 INT's. Before the OU game, OU had a 2-1 pass run ratio. Thats what we were expecting. BTW, Huff is responsible for 1 of those interceptions.

And what I meant was we didn't plan for sweeps and whatnot, I don't think, b/c we definately didn't know how to contain it.

And the question still remains....how stupid is your coach? I doubt we practiced for Michigan to run the option, but if they had i fully expect that we wouldve shut them down.

I guess what you're saying is that the key to beating the Texas D is to find something they haven't practiced. Then they'll fold like superman on laundry day.

 

[Pheasant]

Even though Coach Reese's 2001 defense lead the nation, he was thought to be a weak link preventing us from advancing further. He was sacrificed after the 2002 season at the insistyance of some alumni. (Mack fought for and kept our OC) I honestly don't know where he landed. His replacement Coach Robinson is now the head coach at Syracuse.

On thing Chizik has done is left most of Robinsons defense in place, so that the players do not have to adapt to more new things than necessary. The transition appears to be very smooth so far.

Come on xray, you're killing me. His 2001 defense led the nation in what? No stats? How in the hell are we supposed to argue with you now?

 

[scarletngrey11]

chizik's defense at auburn was great, and im going to say that texas has more talent than auburn and brings in more talent every year. i know a few posts ago i said practice isnt the same as a game, but if he could do that with auburn(im not saying that they arent an elite scholl, just that texas is higher up) then watch out with what he could do w/ the longhorns.

 

[Dryden]

yay for chizik. he may do well. the point is he hasn't coached at texas with these players. there are many DCs that have switched jobs after tons of success and not reproduced it. We'll see on the 10th.

True. The thing though is Chizik has a track record of turning teams around. He went into Auburn in 2002 and immediately turned in a #13 ranked scoring D. In 2003 they improved to #9 ranked scoring D, #7 rush D, and #5 total D. He even produced a Thorpe Award Winner in his short stay there. Prior to Auburn, he turned around UCF, which had the #16 ranked D in 2001 before Chizik left. Before Chizik, UCF was #81.

I don't know if Chizik is a miracle worker or not, but I understand the Longhorn fans' optimism at his hire. He's proved for years to be a helluva coach. I watched all of the Sugar Bowl last year and that D absolutely dismantled Va Tech. That was one of the hardest hitting defenses I've ever seen in college football.

 

[hookemhorns2004]

why has texas had 3 new Defensive coordinators in the last 3 years? im not trying to stir anything up or anything im just wondering, did they not perform as well as expected or did they leave for another school? im pretty sure one of them did?

We've upgraded each of the last 3 yeas.

And the question still remains....how stupid is your coach? I doubt we practiced for Michigan to run the option, but if they had i fully expect that we wouldve shut them down.

I guess what you're saying is that the key to beating the Texas D is to find something they haven't practiced. Then they'll fold like superman on laundry day.

they didn't run the option

I have been bored. Anyway, I wouldn't trade QB's for yours anyday. Here's the throwing/rushing stats for players on both teams who threw at least 1 pass and will be returning this year.

PASSING

NAME CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT
Justin Zwick 98 187 1209 52.4 6.47 6 6 110.9
Troy Smith 68 122 896 55.7 7.34 8 3 134.1

RUSHING
NAME CAR YDS YPC LONG TD
Troy Smith 82 339 4.1 46 2
Justin Zwick 39 32 0.8 22 0


Passing

NAME CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT
Vince Young 148 250 1849 59.2 7.40 12 11 128.4
Ramonce Taylor 1 1 48 100.0 48.00 0 0 503.2
Matt Nordgren 1 1 7 100.0 7.00 0 0 158.8

RUSHING
NAME CAR YDS YPC LONG TD
Vince Young 167 1079 6.5 60(TD) 14
Ramonce Taylor 28 284 10.1 74 1

RECIVING
NAME REC YDS YPR LONG TD
Ramonce Taylor 3 64 21.3 44 0
Vince Young 1 48 48.0 48 0

Young has a better completion %, more passing TD's, more TOTAL TD's, etc etc. Most of his INT's were the 1st half of the season when he was recovering from hernia surgery. He actually had a 26/11 TD/INT ratio if you count for ALL of his touchdowns, which is only fair.