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Game Thread Game Three: Ohio State 27, San Diego State 6 (final)

SDSU always plays tough. It's gonna be a ugly game. Expect to see Smith still trying to shake off the rust. Smith will throw a pick six, mark it down. We win, but ugly. This is the kind of game you hate to watch.
 
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Smith will throw a pick six, mark it down.

I'll take that bet. He may throw a pick, but not for 6. It would have to be a crappy throw in a crappy situation for the DB to beat our wideouts to the endzone. The odds are against you, Taosman.

That said, I'm not real confident this will be a blow out. Even though I took the Bucks in the vBet, my head tells me between a 17 and 21 point win.
 
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Taosman said:
SDSU always plays tough. It's gonna be a ugly game. Expect to see Smith still trying to shake off the rust. Smith will throw a pick six, mark it down. We win, but ugly. This is the kind of game you hate to watch.
I'll take that one further. I bet you he doesn't throw a pick 6, the game wont be ugly, and all buckeye fans will love watching the beat down.
 
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This SDSU defense is really not good. I'll up the ante and state that Smith won't throw any picks. The game will be ugly...for the Aztecs. I have a buddy in San Diego who is a San Diego State booster club member, and I've already offered him my condolences.

Here's two more predictions: Boeckman is in during the third quarter, AND Wells gets at least as many carries as Pittman.
 
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Smith will throw a pick 6 to the worst defense on the continent? Errrr....yeah. This isn't SDSU from 3 years ago....they couldn't catch William Perry in a phone booth...or tackle him when they did.
 
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[SIZE=-2]This will be the third meeting between San Diego State and Ohio State. The Buckeyes have won both previous meetings: 27-12 in 2001 and 16-13 in 2003. In both meetings, however, San Diego State has had the more potent offense. The only thing keeping them from splitting, or even owning, the series has been turnovers. The Aztecs have turned the ball over nine times compared to the Buckeyes three turnovers in the two games. Turnovers should not be the key this week as San Diego State is the youngest it has been in years and they are still finding out about what they have.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]When San Diego State Has The Ball [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]San Diego State has played two games this year and have gained over 400 yards in both. They've done it pretty much the same way both times, averaging 160 yards rushing and 250 yards passing.

They'd better find some other way of moving the ball this week though., because the Silver Bullets are going to come in on the far side of angry.

Kevin O'Connell is the Aztec quarterback, and though he is 6'6" and 220 pounds, he can also run. In fact, he has a 100 yard rushing game to his credit. They will also give reps to redshirt freshman (and former Buckeye recruit) Darren Mougey. He is also big and mobile, but he gets token snaps so he's not the guy to be concerned with.

The best player on the team is redshirt sophomore running back Lynell Hamilton. He is big (6'1" 220 pounds) and fast. He missed all of last year and the end of 2003 with a broken ankle. In two games this year, he's averaging 73 yards rushing per game. Expect that number to go up as the weeks pass. Throughout Hamilton's career, the Aztecs are 4-0 when he rushes for at least 100 yards. They are 5-0 when he rushes for at least 94 yards. The ultimate tell? The Aztecs are 0-7 when Hamilton doesn't reach 94 yards rushing.

If Ohio State can stop the run--which they should--don't be surprised when the Aztecs drop back to throw the ball fifty times this week. Whether the ball leaves the quarterback's hand that many times remains to be seen.

The Aztecs generally go with a single back and three wide receivers. The two most prominent names you'll see on Saturday are senior wide receivers Jeff Webb and Robert Ortiz. They will be running Ashton Youboty and Tyler Everett all over the field. Expect to see a lot of Brandon Mitchell this week. This could also be the week that Jamario O'Neal steps on to the scene.

The Aztecs are turnover prone, so it will be up to the secondary to do what they can to keep that trend going. Right now, San Diego State has a -4 turnover margin. If that gets worse Saturday, they have zero shot.

The offensive line has a couple of veterans, namely Rimington Award candidate Jasper Harvey. This is his third year of starting, and he's the best thing going on this line. Incidentally, how many centers get put on the early lists for the Rimington Award? "Rimington Award candidate" should just replace the term "center". Like "Kleenex" has for "facial tissue".

Soon people will no longer have to ask, "Hey, who are you guys starting at center?" Instead they'll ask, "Hey, who's your Rimington Award candidate?" You'll then answer, "Well, our starting Rimington Award candidate is Billy Johnson. And if anything should happen to him, our backup Rimington Award candidate is Todd Hanks."

They only have one other real returning starter in left guard Taylor Schmidt The other starters have seen spot duty over the last couple of years--except for right tackle Eric Rouser, he is a redshirt freshman. So expect some success from whomever may be working against him.

After the Texas game, the country saw what Big Ten fans already knew--the Buckeye linebackers are for real. This week, the defensive line needs to step up and give the linebackers a bit of a break. The defensive line may have trouble getting to the quarterback, as the Aztecs like to throw the short passes whenever possible. Still, we have yet to see much playmaking from the front four and if there were ever a week to kick it up a notch, this would be it.

The Aztecs return their starting place kicker and punter, both sophomores. Place kicker Michael Hughes is 3 for 3 this year. Last year he was 12 for 21 with a long of 50. He's perfect so far, but you can see that he's due to miss one any time now. Punter Michael Hughes is having a busy year. The most promising aspect of his season (for the Buckeyes) so far is that the Aztec punt team gave up a return touchdown to UCLA. We're not saying it's going to happen, just keep it in mind. The Buckeyes haven't had a punt return for a touchdown since November. They're due.

And, given some of the kickoff returns against Texas, the Buckeyes may be well overdue there.
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[SIZE=-2]When Ohio State Has The Ball [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]When Ohio State has the ball, Troy Smith will have the ball. A lot.

It will be interesting to see if the short passing game introduced with Justin Zwick in the offense will be continued with Troy Smith. They won't throw as much as they have the past two weeks because the running game will be moving the chains.

Smith will be guiding an offense against a very young defense. There are only two players who have a full season of starts listed next to their names. They are nose tackle Jonathan Bailes, a 6'1" 310 pound junior and free safety Marcus Demps. The other nine starters have a combined 24 starts between them.

Provided Antonio Pittman can handle the load, twenty carries are not out of the question. He needs to show the durability that the Buckeyes need as they look towards the Big Ten schedule and prove that he can be "the guy". We haven't seen much from Brandon Schnittker and Maurice Wells lately, but we should see a bit more of both--particularly Maurice Wells. If all goes as planned, hopefully Wells will be the clock-runner-outer in the fourth quarter.

After three touches and eight yards from scrimmage for Ted Ginn Jr. against Texas, expect him to exceed that yardage total on the first series. The Aztecs have allowed nine plays of twenty yards or more this season. Against Texas alone, the Buckeyes had eight plays of twenty yards or more. This is not a good combination for San Diego State.

All of the cornerbacks on San Diego State's team have tallied four starts total. Only one of those starts came prior to this year. I bet Santonio Holmes knows this. Holmes and Co. have to be very eager to play this one. The offensive line should provide Troy Smith with plenty of time to throw the ball wherever they want.

How about trying something deep every now and again?

Please.

There are some players to watch on the Aztec defense, however. Middle linebacker Freddy Keiaho leads the Mountain West Conference with 21 tackles. He should have a shot at another 21on Saturday.

Defensive end Antwan Applewhite is fifth in the conference with 16 tackles and 2.5 sacks. He's not the biggest guy (6'3" 235 pounds), but he's pretty fast. If Doug Datish and Kirk Barton can keep him off of Troy Smith, he should be fine.

You'll also want to watch the safeties. Free safety Marcus Demps has started 19 games in his career, mostly at cornerback, so he's a safety that can cover. Strong safety Reggie Grigsby is active against the run. His 18 tackles rank third in the MWC.

The offense that we saw against Miami (Oh) should reappear some Saturday, but this offense may still be "evolving" (as Coach Tressel likes to say). In San Diego State, the Buckeyes are going against a defense that will allow them to try different things, and be successful at most.

Last week, Air Force put up 503 yards of total offense. Included in that number is 231 yards passing. Giving up 200 yards passing to Air Force is like losing a foot race to a one-legged Martin Landau. It just should not happen.

The Aztecs have only led in a game 10:28 out of a possible 120 minutes this year. They've been playing catch up the entire time, and their defense right now isn't good enough to force a punt. What they have done lately, however, is try to force turnovers. Against UCLA, they forced two fumbles. Against Air Force, they forced five fumbles. Unfortunately, they've only recovered one of those seven. Watch for a fumble by a Buckeye running back this weekend.

The Buckeyes know what they have on special teams. Josh Huston has a tremendous leg. A.J. Trapasso is punting the ball very well right now, and the returns against him aren't very impressive.

Both the punt return and kick return teams for the Buckeyes will be going against overmatched opponents this weekend. Field position will be won, per usual, by the Buckeyes.
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[SIZE=-2]How It'll End Up [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]The Aztecs won't be able to run the ball. Lynell Hamilton will definitely be held under 94 yards, so that tells you all you need to know about the outcome.

Kevin O'Connell will pass for the usual 250 yards against the Buckeyes, most of it simply because it is the only way to move the ball against the Buckeye defense.

Antonio Pittman will rush for another 100 yards. Troy Smith will rush for 70 yards and throw for another 180.

Ohio State 37 - San Diego State 10

(That's ten field goals and a touchdown for the Buckeyes.)

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Back didn't use injury as a crutch

It didn't happen the way he wanted, but San Diego State tailback Lynell Hamilton found a unique way to add 20 pounds to his bench press.


Crutches.

Hamilton broke his right ankle and fibula on a freak play late in his freshman season two years ago, reducing him to a cast and crutches for nearly six months. Anywhere he went around campus, he used crutches to get there.

''After that, my upper body was real strong,'' Hamilton said. ''My max went up on the bench from 350 to about 370. The crutches really helped me out.''

It's just Hamilton's nature to find the bright side to things. He made his first career start against Ohio State in 2003, when the Buckeyes barely held on to win, 16-13. Now his return to Ohio Stadium this weekend will be just his third game since the ankle injury on Nov. 8, 2003.

''I remember so many people, so many in red and silver,'' Hamilton said of his first visit to the 'Shoe. ''I was excited to go out there. It was my first time against a big school, on TV, my first start. I was real excited.''

Hamilton rushed for 69 yards on 17 carries in a game Ohio State won only because of a 99-yard interception return from safety Will Allen. Coach Jim Tressel later admitted it's a game the Buckeyes probably should've lost.

''It was the talk of the town around here for about three weeks,'' Hamilton said.

He's been the talk around campus now that he's healthy again. In the Aztecs' 10th game, against UNLV, Hamilton broke his ankle and leg without anyone hitting him.

On an outside run, he planted his right foot to cut back inside, but the foot got stuck in the turn.

''I sat on my ankle,'' he said. ''I wasn't even hit until I had already broke it. I went down, then I got hit.

''Every time I get hit, I always get up. That time I knew something was wrong.''

Hamilton tried to come back last season, but he couldn't make it through fall camp. He ultimately took a medical redshirt and returned two weeks ago against UCLA. In two games, Hamilton has 147 yards and three touchdowns.

''It was a freak thing that over the course of a season or course of a career, it wouldn't happen,'' Aztecs running backs coach LeCharls McDaniel said. ''It's a shame it happened to such a fine young man. He was getting ready to break Marshall Faulk's records as a freshman. But it makes you a better person and you become more appreciative of things.''

When the injury occurred, Hamilton had 1,087 yards, second-most by any true freshman in school history. He was less than 600 yards away from Faulk's school record of 1,630 with a little over two games to go.

''As a freshman, he was one of the better running backs on the West Coast, if not the nation,'' McDaniel said. ''He's what any team would love to have. He would fit in with the group at Ohio State or USC or anywhere else because he's a leader by example. He's humble, he is sincere in his humbleness and his effort to be as good as he can be and try and bring as many of us along as he can.''

The Aztecs (0-2) need him more than ever this year. This is hardly the same team that scared the Buckeyes two years ago or the team that nearly beat Michigan in Ann Arbor last year. Most of those players are gone, leaving behind the nine sophomores and three freshmen who started in last week's 41-29 loss to Air Force.

''They come out and get after you,'' Tressel said. ''They don't care if they're in Ohio Stadium, they don't care if it's the Big House, where they could've won last year. They'll go anywhere, anytime and play like crazy.''

But those crazy players enter Ohio Stadium tomorrow as four-touchdown underdogs. If they have any chance of pulling an upset, it will likely fall on Hamilton, who is now 100 percent healthy after over a year of rehab.

''There's a lot of super running backs or superstars that might be one thing to the media and coaches and another thing away from all that,'' McDaniel said. ''But this kid is great to be around. He's inquisitive. He's just a great example for all people, not just players. He wants to be good. He thrives on competition. He works his behind off in the offseason. It's a great opportunity for myself to even coach the kid.''

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One thing I would really like to see out of this game is a little more rotation with the offense line. I would like to see Rehring in there some more, and maybe some of the guys like Mitchum, person, Boone and so on.

I think that the line wore down at the end of the Texas game, I know they will all play in this game b/c it will be a blowout but in the weeks to come they need to rotate a little more.

I didnt see Rehring on one snap against Texas, and I did see Datish miss quite a few blocks. I think he has trouble picking up the stunts and the outside blitzes.
 
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I look for everyone to have a big game on both sides of the ball. The odds makers have set us as 28 point favorites for a reason. Even after our apparent less than stellar offensive performance last week. I say apparent because I give Texas some credit. Tha Aztec's just aren't in the same class. We will likely score at will. The defense may even score at will! We will likely only return one or two kick-offs so we won't have a real big chance to score there. I myself would punt the ball out of bounds every time. I would take my chances vs. our offense then to let our boys return a punt. I would like to see Kudla have a big game. I know our LB's will. Our DB's will benefit from that. I say two of our guys will top the century mark rushing. Which two? Everyone plays in this game because it will be 21-0 in the first.
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Deety is the best friend in the world... her misfortune means I'll be sitting in 23AA, row 9, seat 3

This one is going to be extremely ugly. Ginn will be able to dance across the field all day long with their lack of team speed and tackling.

I'm predicting a serious blowout. Had we won last week, it might have been within 2-3 TDs. But Smith, Ginn and everyone else will have plenty to prove this week.
 
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Deety is the best friend in the world... her misfortune means I'll be sitting in 23AA, row 9, seat 3

This one is going to be extremely ugly. Ginn will be able to dance across the field all day long with their lack of team speed and tackling.

I'm predicting a serious blowout. Had we won last week, it might have been within 2-3 TDs. But Smith, Ginn and everyone else will have plenty to prove this week.

Ditto, I'm thinking that we may be able to win by over 40.....you don't hear that from me very much.

SDSU is really that bad on D, I'm telling you. It reminds me of the Cooper days when we'd play Rice................that is all I should have to say about it.
 
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SDSU always plays tough. It's gonna be a ugly game. Expect to see Smith still trying to shake off the rust. Smith will throw a pick six, mark it down. We win, but ugly. This is the kind of game you hate to watch.

No no no!!!!!

Ohio State 49
SDSU 0

First shut out in a while.... bring it!!!

I'll be in 15aa row 11 seat 6 or 7... stop by and say hello...
 
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