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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Boone's "holding" call was interesting as it just looked like he threw the guy to the ground and was generally abusing the DE!
Watching him in the game I saw him make like, 3 blocks on one passing play! Oh! My!
He is going to be an absolute monster! :tongue2:
Watched "The Sports Reporters".
They don't think we'll beat Michigan even though they did not say so directly.
They LOVE Michigan!
Watching him in the game I saw him make like, 3 blocks on one passing play! Oh! My!
He is going to be an absolute monster! :tongue2:
Watched "The Sports Reporters".
They don't think we'll beat Michigan even though they did not say so directly.
They LOVE Michigan!
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sandgk
Watson, Crick & A Twist
From the Stands - Brief
The one thing that jumped out to me was how few deep passes the Buckeyes threw against a Bowling Green D that when tested had no real answer. Two passes. The first was to Gonzo in the end-zone, and he was judged to be out of the end-zone with the reception. The second results in the 57-yard TD to Ginn.
Some players and coaches gave us post-game quotes about how they were not taking this as a break, or a scrimmage, and I think we can trust that was true. But even their own words indicate that a goal in this game was to take the opportunity to work on some formations, some plays. Clearly, beating teams deep was not high on the list of things which needed to be improved, or tweaked. Also, (and typical of Tressel) there was no interest in running up a score to impress the voters.
I'm with daddyphatsacs on the D, my expectation was for greater pressure than was exerted for most of the day.
This was a game played at less than 100% in my view, but I attribute that to the agenda of coaching for the season, rather than to bury an in-state opponent.
The one thing that jumped out to me was how few deep passes the Buckeyes threw against a Bowling Green D that when tested had no real answer. Two passes. The first was to Gonzo in the end-zone, and he was judged to be out of the end-zone with the reception. The second results in the 57-yard TD to Ginn.
Some players and coaches gave us post-game quotes about how they were not taking this as a break, or a scrimmage, and I think we can trust that was true. But even their own words indicate that a goal in this game was to take the opportunity to work on some formations, some plays. Clearly, beating teams deep was not high on the list of things which needed to be improved, or tweaked. Also, (and typical of Tressel) there was no interest in running up a score to impress the voters.
I'm with daddyphatsacs on the D, my expectation was for greater pressure than was exerted for most of the day.
This was a game played at less than 100% in my view, but I attribute that to the agenda of coaching for the season, rather than to bury an in-state opponent.
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UpNorthBuckeye
Hall of Fame
Watching this game, I was a little disappointed in the offensive play-calling and the defensive schemes.
I know it was just BG, and I know JT doesn't want to run up the score, but the first down running plays out of the I formation were just too predictable. It will be interesting to see the Ozone's analysis of yards-per-play from different formations and different down and yard situations. But, I'll get over it with a 35-7 score. Doesn't give our upcoming opponents much to look at on film, I guess.
On the defensive side, I am waiting for the coaching staff to have enough confidence in the back four to send more blitzes. I am not forgetting that we now lead the NATION in points allowed... and again, we are not showing our upcoming opponents much on film, but I am dying for safety blitzes, or sending two linebackers from one side... etc.
Next week, I am afraid that we will have too much compassion for MSU and for their lame duck coach, and so we will take it too easy on them, and let them hang around. What I really want is an annhilation, something like 50 to 6 or something.
In the BG game, I thought the two most impressive positions were our QB (naturally) and our receivers. We have 7 or 8 receivers who would start for anybody in the nation. Wow.
Maybe we are saving our best stuff for later in the year, like a fine bottle of expensive wine.
I know it was just BG, and I know JT doesn't want to run up the score, but the first down running plays out of the I formation were just too predictable. It will be interesting to see the Ozone's analysis of yards-per-play from different formations and different down and yard situations. But, I'll get over it with a 35-7 score. Doesn't give our upcoming opponents much to look at on film, I guess.
On the defensive side, I am waiting for the coaching staff to have enough confidence in the back four to send more blitzes. I am not forgetting that we now lead the NATION in points allowed... and again, we are not showing our upcoming opponents much on film, but I am dying for safety blitzes, or sending two linebackers from one side... etc.
Next week, I am afraid that we will have too much compassion for MSU and for their lame duck coach, and so we will take it too easy on them, and let them hang around. What I really want is an annhilation, something like 50 to 6 or something.
In the BG game, I thought the two most impressive positions were our QB (naturally) and our receivers. We have 7 or 8 receivers who would start for anybody in the nation. Wow.
Maybe we are saving our best stuff for later in the year, like a fine bottle of expensive wine.
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lvbuckeye
Silver Surfer
i am seriously questioning that assessment, considering the fact that Troy hit 85% of his passes (third highest single game percentage in Ohio State history) and threw 3 TDs... if anything, from my view, it was the run blocking that needed work...daddyphatsacs;628376; said:
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OZone
Football
The-Ozone Note and Quotebook
By John Porentas
Glad It's Over: OSU's win over Bowling Green was about what was expected, but hardly inspiring. The team played well enough, but didn't exactly bring goose bumps. That was reflected by the crowd which was actually pretty subdued during most of the game. It was almost as if the mid-season sojourn into non-conference play was an interlude that had to be endured rather than one that had to be embraced. Even OSU Head Coach Jim Tressel was glad it was over at game's end. Tressel and his captains were asked if they were glad the week was over.
"Speaking just for me, Yes," said Tressel.
"The Big Ten is what it's all about for us, and you get your Big Ten focus on and then all of a sudden we're out of the Big Ten.
"We have to watch all those other teams play in our league, so I'm happy to get back, especially when you're going against an opponent like Michigan State coming up, you know what kind of ability they have, so, yeah, this is exciting (to get back into league play," Tressel said.
Keeping them Off the Board: Once again the OSU defense gave up some yards, but once again they were tough to score on. OSU allowed just seven points against Bowling Green, bringing their points-against average down to 9.3 through six game, best in Division I-A football. The Falcons did put together a very impressive 15-play, 85 yard drive on which they kept the OSU defense on its heels while driving to paydirt.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Quinn Pitcock [/FONT]
"They were showing us a lot of different looks," said OSU defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock.
"I think defensively we were making mistakes and we weren't executing well," Pitcock said.
"We were out of our gaps. We needed to be more attacking and looking into the backfield less.
"At times they had two tight ends and no back, stuff like that that we didn't see until this week. It was just a little different. They were throwing short, quick passes and it was hard for us to get a rush going," Pitcock said of the Bowling Green scoring drive.
OSU defensive coordinator Jim Heacock saw a silver lining to the Falcon success.
"I don't think it was one thing or another. I think as we look through it most every time when somebody moves the football, a lot of times it's execution," said Heacock.
"Watching from the sideline I would imagine we had some execution mistakes, guys out of position, guys not getting lined up, and we had J. O. (Jamario O'Neal) back there, a young guy, and it's all new to him. I just don't think we executed on that drive like we needed to," Heacock said.
"We'll sit down and analyze that tape and we'll show it to them (the OSU defense). They're probably not going to enjoy that, but I'm really glad to have it as a teaching tool. We can take care of a lot of problems with it and get better," Heacock said.
Heacock was happy to have the teaching tool, but was not happy with his injury situation after the game.
"We lost a couple of players again today in Dave Patterson and Nadar Abdallah, two inside guys for us on defense," Heacock said.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Curtis Terry [/FONT]
The OSU defense was also hampered by the limited availability of linebacker Curtis Terry who was held out most of the game due to injury.
"Curtis didn't practice this week," said Heacock.
"He had a foot injury that kept him out of practice all week, so we played a couple of other guys there. We actually started (linebacker Larry) Grant. Curtis looked like he's OK so we played him there toward the end," Heacock said.
Following in Some Big Footsteps: OSU freshman wide receiver Ray Small scored the first touchdown of his Buckeye career against Bowling Green when he took a short pass and simply blew past a would-be tackler to score from about 12 yards out. Small, who is from Glennville High School in the Cleveland area, the same school that produced Ted Ginn, made it clear who he emulates in his game.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ray Small [/FONT]
"My whole game is based around Ted Ginn," said Small.
"When I was in 10th grade and he was in 12th he would take me under his wing and tell me to do this and do that. Then we would go to his house and go out back and just run a couple of routes," Small said.
"I've played with him since I was in the 10th grade. I'm just used to playing with him. Everybody says my gestures are just like Ted's. It's because I've been around him so much and I look up to him so much," Small said.
"I kind of follow in his footsteps. Everybody says my game is just like his and I'm predicted to be just like Ted and follow in his footsteps. Hopefully, I'll be better than Ted. I try to strive to be better, to put some of his game with my game. We talk about it and he wants me to be better all the time."
For his part, Ginn was thrilled to see his understudy get into the endzone for the first time as a Buckeye.
Ted Ginn
"Ah, my little brother," said an obviously pleased Ginn
"I was so happy for him. I know how the first time I stepped on the field and got a touchdown I was so pumped. I hope he can keep it going and score every game," Ginn said.
One of the ironies of the touchdown is that Small joked all week in practice that if he had the opportunity, he was going to score this week.
"Ray did say all week he was going to score. He did, that's true. He's a soothsayer," chuckled OSU Head Coach Jim Tressel.
"First it was kind of a play-around thing," said Small.
"I kept saying I was going to get into the endzone this game. Then I went to Coach Tressel and told him that if I have an opportunity I'm getting into the endzone, and he kind of bushed me off, but I was really confident.
"It was just a thing where I went to him and told him that if I get the ball this week I'm going to score. It wasn't a cocky thing. I was just real confident," said Small.
Small's first touchdown doesn't exactly make him nipping at Ginn's heels when it comes to his big-play count compared to that of his mentor, but Ginn playfully tried to outdo his understudy in the prediction area after the game. Ginn put on reporters well enough that he held their rapt attention with a little yarn he spun to outdo Small's prediction, a yarn that brought a lively laugh from reporters when they finally caught on.
"He said it he said 'I'm scoring,'" Ginn agreed, then went on.
"I remember my freshman year I said I'm going to get three touchdowns against Michigan State, and it worked," Ginn said with a straight face referring to his three-touchdown outburst in East Lansing his freshman season which changed that game. When a reporter tried to ask a follow up question, Ginn couldn't keep his straight face any longer, laughed, and got up and left, bring a burst of laughter from those in the room.
Turnovers Still Continue: OSU continues to take care of the football extremely well on offense and continues to make the kind of big plays on defense that change games. This week it was defensive end Vernon Gholston who came up with the big play when he registered his first career interception while in pass coverage in a zone-blitz situation. Defensive coordinator Jim Heacock commented on Gholston's play.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Vernon Gholston [/FONT]
"It was great, it really was," said Heacock.
"Vern's played well all year He's been a consistent football player for us. He's made big plays."
Heacock, who has a dry wit, couldn't resist taking a little good-natured poke at Gholston
"Today he got the interception and a sack. I think our guys get excited, but I'm disappointed in the way he ran the ball when he caught it. We thought he might have a little something. He got seven (yards), but it was pretty pitiful, so we have to work on that," Heacock said trying hard to restrain his smile. He then held out a little olive branch for Gholston.
"But he handed the ball to the official, so that was good," he said.
OSU's ball-hawking defense is beginning to affect the game plan of opposing offenses.
"We were reluctant to throw the ball downfield a lot because they just feast on deep balls. We just didn't want to throw it up because they're so active in the back end," said Bowling Green Head Coach Greg Brandon.
Troy's Fan: OSU quarterback Troy Smith has plenty of fans throughout the Buckeye nation right now, but one of his biggest fans might be on the OSU football team, tight end Rory Nicol.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Troy Smith [/FONT]
"I love Troy. Me and Troy are close. He's so competitive," said Nicol.
"When he makes plays like that (Smith's scramble of 34 yards to set up an OSU touchdown) I don't even say anything to him because it's almost gotten to the point where you expect it. That run he and on third and 26 today or whatever, not many people can do that," Nicol said.
"Troy is a very accurate passer. The thing that Troy can do is he can roll right and probably throw the ball 70 yards in the air to the left side of he field. He can make any throw and he's accurate," Nicol said.
Nicol obviously appreciates Smith, but following his big scramble in the game, may have gotten a little carried away letting Smith know of his appreciation.
"His butt might hurt because I smacked him so hard," said Nicol, "but other than that I didn't say anything."
Football
The-Ozone Note and Quotebook
By John Porentas
Glad It's Over: OSU's win over Bowling Green was about what was expected, but hardly inspiring. The team played well enough, but didn't exactly bring goose bumps. That was reflected by the crowd which was actually pretty subdued during most of the game. It was almost as if the mid-season sojourn into non-conference play was an interlude that had to be endured rather than one that had to be embraced. Even OSU Head Coach Jim Tressel was glad it was over at game's end. Tressel and his captains were asked if they were glad the week was over.
"Speaking just for me, Yes," said Tressel.
"The Big Ten is what it's all about for us, and you get your Big Ten focus on and then all of a sudden we're out of the Big Ten.
"We have to watch all those other teams play in our league, so I'm happy to get back, especially when you're going against an opponent like Michigan State coming up, you know what kind of ability they have, so, yeah, this is exciting (to get back into league play," Tressel said.
Keeping them Off the Board: Once again the OSU defense gave up some yards, but once again they were tough to score on. OSU allowed just seven points against Bowling Green, bringing their points-against average down to 9.3 through six game, best in Division I-A football. The Falcons did put together a very impressive 15-play, 85 yard drive on which they kept the OSU defense on its heels while driving to paydirt.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Quinn Pitcock [/FONT]
"I think defensively we were making mistakes and we weren't executing well," Pitcock said.
"We were out of our gaps. We needed to be more attacking and looking into the backfield less.
"At times they had two tight ends and no back, stuff like that that we didn't see until this week. It was just a little different. They were throwing short, quick passes and it was hard for us to get a rush going," Pitcock said of the Bowling Green scoring drive.
OSU defensive coordinator Jim Heacock saw a silver lining to the Falcon success.
"I don't think it was one thing or another. I think as we look through it most every time when somebody moves the football, a lot of times it's execution," said Heacock.
"Watching from the sideline I would imagine we had some execution mistakes, guys out of position, guys not getting lined up, and we had J. O. (Jamario O'Neal) back there, a young guy, and it's all new to him. I just don't think we executed on that drive like we needed to," Heacock said.
"We'll sit down and analyze that tape and we'll show it to them (the OSU defense). They're probably not going to enjoy that, but I'm really glad to have it as a teaching tool. We can take care of a lot of problems with it and get better," Heacock said.
Heacock was happy to have the teaching tool, but was not happy with his injury situation after the game.
"We lost a couple of players again today in Dave Patterson and Nadar Abdallah, two inside guys for us on defense," Heacock said.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Curtis Terry [/FONT]
"Curtis didn't practice this week," said Heacock.
"He had a foot injury that kept him out of practice all week, so we played a couple of other guys there. We actually started (linebacker Larry) Grant. Curtis looked like he's OK so we played him there toward the end," Heacock said.
Following in Some Big Footsteps: OSU freshman wide receiver Ray Small scored the first touchdown of his Buckeye career against Bowling Green when he took a short pass and simply blew past a would-be tackler to score from about 12 yards out. Small, who is from Glennville High School in the Cleveland area, the same school that produced Ted Ginn, made it clear who he emulates in his game.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ray Small [/FONT]
"When I was in 10th grade and he was in 12th he would take me under his wing and tell me to do this and do that. Then we would go to his house and go out back and just run a couple of routes," Small said.
"I've played with him since I was in the 10th grade. I'm just used to playing with him. Everybody says my gestures are just like Ted's. It's because I've been around him so much and I look up to him so much," Small said.
"I kind of follow in his footsteps. Everybody says my game is just like his and I'm predicted to be just like Ted and follow in his footsteps. Hopefully, I'll be better than Ted. I try to strive to be better, to put some of his game with my game. We talk about it and he wants me to be better all the time."
For his part, Ginn was thrilled to see his understudy get into the endzone for the first time as a Buckeye.
Ted Ginn
"I was so happy for him. I know how the first time I stepped on the field and got a touchdown I was so pumped. I hope he can keep it going and score every game," Ginn said.
One of the ironies of the touchdown is that Small joked all week in practice that if he had the opportunity, he was going to score this week.
"Ray did say all week he was going to score. He did, that's true. He's a soothsayer," chuckled OSU Head Coach Jim Tressel.
"First it was kind of a play-around thing," said Small.
"I kept saying I was going to get into the endzone this game. Then I went to Coach Tressel and told him that if I have an opportunity I'm getting into the endzone, and he kind of bushed me off, but I was really confident.
"It was just a thing where I went to him and told him that if I get the ball this week I'm going to score. It wasn't a cocky thing. I was just real confident," said Small.
Small's first touchdown doesn't exactly make him nipping at Ginn's heels when it comes to his big-play count compared to that of his mentor, but Ginn playfully tried to outdo his understudy in the prediction area after the game. Ginn put on reporters well enough that he held their rapt attention with a little yarn he spun to outdo Small's prediction, a yarn that brought a lively laugh from reporters when they finally caught on.
"He said it he said 'I'm scoring,'" Ginn agreed, then went on.
"I remember my freshman year I said I'm going to get three touchdowns against Michigan State, and it worked," Ginn said with a straight face referring to his three-touchdown outburst in East Lansing his freshman season which changed that game. When a reporter tried to ask a follow up question, Ginn couldn't keep his straight face any longer, laughed, and got up and left, bring a burst of laughter from those in the room.
Turnovers Still Continue: OSU continues to take care of the football extremely well on offense and continues to make the kind of big plays on defense that change games. This week it was defensive end Vernon Gholston who came up with the big play when he registered his first career interception while in pass coverage in a zone-blitz situation. Defensive coordinator Jim Heacock commented on Gholston's play.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Vernon Gholston [/FONT]
"Vern's played well all year He's been a consistent football player for us. He's made big plays."
Heacock, who has a dry wit, couldn't resist taking a little good-natured poke at Gholston
"Today he got the interception and a sack. I think our guys get excited, but I'm disappointed in the way he ran the ball when he caught it. We thought he might have a little something. He got seven (yards), but it was pretty pitiful, so we have to work on that," Heacock said trying hard to restrain his smile. He then held out a little olive branch for Gholston.
"But he handed the ball to the official, so that was good," he said.
OSU's ball-hawking defense is beginning to affect the game plan of opposing offenses.
"We were reluctant to throw the ball downfield a lot because they just feast on deep balls. We just didn't want to throw it up because they're so active in the back end," said Bowling Green Head Coach Greg Brandon.
Troy's Fan: OSU quarterback Troy Smith has plenty of fans throughout the Buckeye nation right now, but one of his biggest fans might be on the OSU football team, tight end Rory Nicol.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Troy Smith [/FONT]
"When he makes plays like that (Smith's scramble of 34 yards to set up an OSU touchdown) I don't even say anything to him because it's almost gotten to the point where you expect it. That run he and on third and 26 today or whatever, not many people can do that," Nicol said.
"Troy is a very accurate passer. The thing that Troy can do is he can roll right and probably throw the ball 70 yards in the air to the left side of he field. He can make any throw and he's accurate," Nicol said.
Nicol obviously appreciates Smith, but following his big scramble in the game, may have gotten a little carried away letting Smith know of his appreciation.
"His butt might hurt because I smacked him so hard," said Nicol, "but other than that I didn't say anything."
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daddyphatsacs;628376; said:
lvbuckeye;628623; said:
Sorry lv, but I have to go side with "the other daddy" on this one. Troy did not attempt one third down pass in the first half. Not one. The reason for that was that he never had time to throw on third down. Several third down plays were scrambles; some for first downs, some not so much.
So yes, I'm a little disappointed in the way the lines played yesterday... a little.
BUT, consider this. I've said it before, but it bears repeating because some people are acting like we freakin' lost. Tressel called ONE pass play on first down in the second half. With the way they were stacking the box, wasn't it obvious that passing on first down would've eaten their lunch? We passed one freakin' time. Every other first down, we ran into the teeth of at least 8 men in the box.
So what happened that ONE time that we made them pay for counting on Tressel to run on first and kill clock?
whoosh - 57 yards, 1 play, elapsed time 20 seconds (would have been a lot less time with the old clock rules)
And by the way - on THAT play - when it mattered - Troy had time to MAKE a donut, eat it and do the dishes.
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Exactly. They would've scored 60 if Tressel had actually mixed in some play action.
LLLLoyd - if you're reading this, Jim Tressel does not run any play action.
LLLLoyd - if you're reading this, Jim Tressel does not run any play action.
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Personally, I think the BGSU performance is just more proof that Tressel doesn't simply manage individual games, but instead manages the whole season. What did OSU show in the BGSU game? That we can still execute our base stuff.
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scooter1369
HTTR Forever.
Buckeyeskickbuttocks;628745; said:
yup. Probably the most vanilla offense we've seen in two years from Tress and Co.
Why show your hand on a game like this?
Hey, Coop...are you gettin' all of this down?
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SanAntonioBuck
RIP Our Friend and Hero
We'll see the fireworks next week against scUM Lite!scooter1369;628753; said:
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