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G/F Evan "The Villain" Turner (2010 Naismith Winner)

some really really great ball players arent dominant, they do all the little things. they play defense, they hustle, they pass, and when need be they score and do the flashy things. contrary to popular belief you dont win games in the b10 or late march b/c of superstars, you win games b/c of fundamentals and the little things. i willing to bet however the game changes in my lifetime, things will change based on defense, rebounding and turnovers. you cant ever overlook a player due to the fact hes not flashy. look at chris quinn at notre dame, he does get much recog, but hes a helluva a college player, sets the temp and the offense. youve got 8 guys wholl see the floor 5 at a time and 1 basketball. meaning four guys are (or should be) doing dirty work off all the ball.

Good post. This is why George Mason made it so far in the tournament last year. Not all superstars were on the floor, but they had 5 guys who played well with each other and could do all the little things.

Not sure you are giving a good analysis on Turner PacerBucks67, you played with him in 7th and 8th grade. At that time some kids are still growing into their bodies, especially kids that are 6'6 and taller. Turner is the #2 recruit in Illinois for a reason.
 
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JCOSU86;642378; said:
Cocky much? :lol:

Unfortunately it was never me who was the best player on the team. The best player off the bench maybe...

You guys don't really understand what I'm trying to say. I completely understand the need for role players. I'm also not saying Evan isn't going to be a very good college basketball player. All I'm saying is that in junior high school, and at the beginning of high school Evan had stat lines that were around 12/6/7. I bet if you could look at the statlines of any current role player type guys like Boris Diaw, Drew Gooden, James Posey, Udonis Haslem, Jeff Foster etc. they would have much higher stats at that age.

This isn't a knock against Evan in anyway, just an interesting bit of information I thought I'd share with you guys.

Smitty03, you are correct, he was still growing in to his body. At that time he was extremely skinny, had a squeeky high pitched voice, and hadn't even grown armpit hair yet. :lol:
 
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No JO4H, he's not saying that Turner is a wasted scholly at all. I see what he's getting at, and it's an interesting observation.

But, PacerBuck, tell me...have you seen Turner play in the past year? What are your current thoughts on his development? Every time he plays against other top players, whether in AAU, or those loose team games they have in Illinois, he's putting up numbers in the 20-10 range.
 
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But, PacerBuck, tell me...have you seen Turner play in the past year? What are your current thoughts on his development? Every time he plays against other top players, whether in AAU, or those loose team games they have in Illinois, he's putting up numbers in the 20-10 range.

I have seen him play and trust me.....he will fit in just fine at tOSU. He will be a fan favorite. :wink2:
 
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Jim Otis, if you still don't get what I'm trying to say then I simply can't help you. I'm thrilled we got Evan, maybe I'll get some free tickets.

HabaneroBuck;642700; said:
No JO4H, he's not saying that Turner is a wasted scholly at all. I see what he's getting at, and it's an interesting observation.

But, PacerBuck, tell me...have you seen Turner play in the past year? What are your current thoughts on his development? Every time he plays against other top players, whether in AAU, or those loose team games they have in Illinois, he's putting up numbers in the 20-10 range.

I saw Evan play at St. Joes once this season, and he looks much stronger, more intelligent and like an overall better player, but I had to leave at halftime.
 
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COLLEGE BASKETBALL
Turner finds extended family as part of OSU recruiting class
Thursday, November 09, 2006
Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH



Players talk about their team being a family. Coaches try to make them feel as if they have a home away from home. It?s a staple of the recruiting pitch.
Ohio State did not have to sell Evan Turner very hard.
Turner, a 6-foot-6 guard from Chicago and one of four high school seniors who signed yesterday to play basketball at OSU next season, has spent time in Columbus almost every summer since he was 10. His father, James Turner, lives here. So do other relatives.
One of James Turner?s cousins, Roger Ball, is a seat-license holder in Value City Arena and an investor in the Brownstone on Main, a Downtown restaurant and jazz club where Ohio State coaches often entertain recruits and their families.
"I didn?t want to go anywhere and be all by myself," Evan Turner said. "It will be nice to have the support."
Coach Thad Matta also received signed letters of intent yesterday from three Ohioans: 7-foot-1 forward Kosta Koufos of Canton GlenOak, 6-9 center Dallas Lauderdale of Solon and 6-6 guard Jon Diebler of Upper Sandusky.
A fifth prospect, 6-6 forward Eric Wallace of Kernersville, N.C., was weighing his options, his father said.
The class is ranked No. 7 nationally by Scout.com, a recruiting Web site. It is the second consecutive year Matta and his staff have signed a top-10 class; the "Thad Five" of 2006, headlined by two-time national player of the year Greg Oden, was ranked second.
"I think recruiting and success become contagious," Matta said. "I remember Coach K (Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski) telling me when I got here, he said it takes one class and then you?ve got to follow it up and follow it up and follow it up. Obviously, he?s done that at Duke."
Duke has won three national championships and reached the Final Four 10 times in the past 21 seasons. Matta aspires to such success.
"I didn?t leave Xavier to come here and not contend," he said. "That?s ultimately what we?re trying to get done."
Turner, valued for his athleticism and ability to run the floor on offense and pressure on defense, was scouted by Ohio State coaches last season at Westchester St. Joseph?s High School and was offered a scholarship in May after Matta watched him during an AAU tournament in Akron.
"Once Ohio State got in the picture, boom, I brought him down here and let him see the benefits he?d have down here," said James Turner, who lives in Canal Winchester.
"His mother and brother (in Chicago) really wanted him to go to Wisconsin, but that wasn?t his type of play. I?ve watched Ohio State and I like how Matta?s teams play. As long as (North) Carolina didn?t call, I was cool. (Evan?s) been in Carolina blue since he was little."
Turner played it cool with Ohio State coaches until late June, when he said Matta told him one scholarship remained for either him or forward Alex Tyus of St. Louis, and that Tyus was visiting campus the next day. Turner committed almost on the spot, and coaches canceled Tyus? visit; he later committed to Florida.
Turner said he was drawn to Ohio State after becoming friends with Diebler, Koufos and Lauderdale at an all-star camp in Virginia a week before he made his decision.
"Win or lose, those are people I wanted to be around," Turner said. "We?re going to have something special at Ohio State, and to win and make good friends and memories will be good."
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Rivals on a collision course
St. Joseph, Proviso E. will face off for title

By Matt Beardmore
Tribune staff reporter

November 25, 2006

Too big. Too fast. Too athletic.

Proviso East (3-0) was in mid-season form Friday, rolling over East Aurora 83-50 to advance to Saturday's title game against second-ranked St. Joseph at the 48th Annual St. Charles East Thanksgiving Tournament. The Chargers defeated Robeson 72-48 on Friday afternoon to improve to 3-0.



"We didn't come out focused in the layup line, you could tell," said Ohio State-bound senior Evan Turner, who had a game-high 22 points. "We have to be more serious."

But motivation won't be problem Saturday for the Chargers, who were eliminated by Proviso East the last two seasons in the sectional final.

"That's always going to be in the back of our heads, but it's a new year," said Proviso East senior Nathan Fuqua, who scored 14 against East Aurora (1-2).

The left-hander with the Michael Redd-like release nailed his first two three-pointers, but it was his steal and windmill slam in the second quarter that highlighted the Pirates' credo this season.

"If we play defense, the offense will come," said Proviso East senior Tydus Townsend.

With Brian Carlwell gone, the 6-foot-7-inch center is fitting in nicely down low for the No. 20 Pirates.

Townsend scored 11 of his game-high 25 points in the second quarter as Proviso East's lead ballooned to 45-19.

"He's becoming a monster," Fuqua said. "He's playing like he should have last year."

Proviso East senior guard Jacob Pullen scored 18 and Jamal Jones had 17 .
 
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Reformed Chargers stick it to old nemesis
ST. JOSEPH 63, PROVISO EAST 59


November 26, 2006
BY MICHAEL O'BRIEN Staff Reporter
With four seconds left in the game, No. 3 St. Joseph ahead by three points and Proviso East's Tremel Owens at the free-throw line, Evan Turner knew just what to do. Turner -- St. Joseph's lanky, 6-6 Ohio State-bound forward -- had to grab the rebound to secure the win.
''It wasn't any secret,'' he said. ''They were talking about missing it. So I knew what we needed.''
Turner delivered, snagging the ball and sealing a 63-59 win over No. 15 Proviso East in the championship game of the St. Charles East Thanksgiving Tournament.
The last two seasons, the Pirates have had St. Joseph's number.
''That's because we were childish,'' said Turner, who finished with 21 points, 14 rebounds, five steals and three blocks. ''This year we kept our composure, and that made the difference.''
The Chargers (4-0) led by six with 3:20 to play and tried to slow things down. It led to two turnovers and five points for Proviso East.
''It was a brutal game for both teams,'' St. Joseph coach Gene Pingatore said. ''It always is against them. The kids take over. It's a neighborhood game.''
Demetri McCamey, St. Joseph's Illinois-bound point guard, responded on the next possession, finding Lafayette Gray for a layup to increase the Chargers' lead to 59-56.
''This season we have two leaders with me and Evan,'' McCamey said. ''And those two sophomores [Diamond Taylor and Louis Green] stepped up and did well. They will both be Division I players.''
McCamey finished with 19 points and five rebounds. Garrett Leffelman scored seven, and Green grabbed six rebounds for the Chargers.
''We were trying to get them back for the last couple of years,'' Turner said. ''We want to win the state championship so Ping can retire on top.''
Proviso East (3-1) won the battle of the boards 39-33 but was hampered by poor free-throw shooting, finishing just 13-for-27 from the line.
Proviso East guard Jacob Pullen, McCamey's first cousin, led the Pirates with 18 points. Senior Nathan Fuqua added 15 points and six rebounds. Center Tydus Townsend, a 6-7 senior, scored 10 points and had 13 boards.
''The maturity is a factor,'' Pingatore said. ''Last year we might've had a tendency to hang our heads a bit. This time, at the end, they held together.''
 
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HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL BECOMING A LEADER

Turner takes charge
St. Joseph swingman exerts self on, off court

By Bob Sakamoto
Tribune staff reporter
December 8, 2006

Principals have been known to retire a high school coach.

Athletic directors have been known to do the same.

But Evan Turner might be the first player to retire a coach.

After Turner and St. Joseph beat Proviso East 63-59 two weeks ago to win the St. Charles East Thanksgiving Tournament, the Ohio State signee told a reporter, "We want to win the state championship so [coach Gene Pingatore] can retire on top."

At Monday's Proviso West Holiday Tournament media night, St. Patrick coach Mike Bailey sidled up to Pingatore and wished him well on the farewell tour.

"What are you talking about?" Pingatore said. "I'm not going anywhere."

"Guess I'd better cancel the retirement party," Bailey shot back.

The sheepish grin belonged to Turner.

"I was just joking around during that postgame interview, and I guess the reporter took me seriously," Turner said. "At first, Coach got a little upset. When I explained it to him, he started laughing."

This is Pingatore's 38th year at St. Joseph, where he has compiled a 773-257 record, with his most famous player being Isiah Thomas.

No. 2 St. Joseph is off to a 5-0 start, and there's every reason for Pingatore to stick around. Freshmen DeAndre McCamey, Curtis Gates and 6-foot-3-inch Mantas Dubauskas from Lithuania are varsity-bound next season. And 6-7 sophomore Lewis Green and classmate 6-2 Diamond Taylor are among the Chargers' top varsity reserves.

Turner was dominant with 31 points and 13 rebounds in the Chargers' season opener. He had subsequent games of 22 points and 10 rebounds and 21 and 11.

"This being my last year (of high school), I'm more aggressive now," said the 6-6 Turner, who entered St. Joe as a 6-foot point guard. "I try to be dominant and control every aspect of the game.

"In past years it wasn't my place to take over a game. Plus as a younger player, I didn't have the confidence to do a lot of different things. I just concentrated on scoring."

Sharing the mantle of leadership with Illinois signee Demetri McCamey, a more mature Turner now refrains from blaming teammates when a play breaks down.

"Evan is a wing player with point-guard skills who can also post inside," Pingatore said. "He plays all five positions, and that's ideal for our motion offense."

Illinois was in Turner's final four along with Wisconsin and Iowa.

"I liked Illinois a lot, but it's kind of in a farming area," Turner said. "Columbus (Ohio) is more like a city. Plus all the relatives on my father's side live in Columbus, about a 15-minute drive from campus.

"I've been going up to see them every summer since I was 9 years old. Columbus doesn't have a pro team, so . . . the only thing people in Columbus know is Ohio State."

Copyright ? 2006, The Chicago Tribune

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...3057271.story?coll=cs-hs-boysbasketball-print
 
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Turner's foul trouble costs St. Joe



December 10, 2006

BY PATRICK Z. MCGAVIN AND MATT LE CREN

St. Joseph needs Evan Turner on the floor.


He scored a career-high 34 points, but it wasn't enough as Milwaukee Vincent seized the late momentum and shocked the No. 2 Chargers 70-64 in overtime in the Gentile Holiday Classic on Saturday night at Loyola University.

St. Joseph (6-1) led 51-41 early in the fourth quarter when Turner picked up his fourth foul. With Turner on the bench in foul trouble, the Chargers watched the 10-point lead vanish. Vincent (2-0), the top-rated large school in Wisconsin, forced three consecutive turnovers during an 11-0 run.

''I know I'm important to the team, but I never imagined that we would lose control like that,'' Turner said. ''We made some poor decisions and took some quick shots on offense, and we kind of panicked and lost our momentum.''

Turner scored the Chargers' last 12 points, including the final eight of regulation that ended in a 60-60 tie. Vincent junior Daryl Dent scored six of his 12 points in overtime. Marvin Fitzgerald scored 25 points for the Vikings.
Demetri McCamey added 12 points for the Chargers.
''They were quicker this year,'' St. Joseph coach Gene Pingatore said. ''We played them last year, and we were quicker. It was a good game for us; it was just a tough one to lose.''
 
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