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Shot Doctor Herb Magee Fixed Evan Turner
By: Gordie Jones on December 15, 2011
They started out in July, at Great Valley High School, in Malvern: Evan Turner shooting. Herb Magee watching, assessing.
All of which stands to reason. Magee, the legendary coach at Philadelphia University and just-as-legendary freelance shooting instructor, has always done his best work in the smallest gyms. And he has often helped out guys who earn their living in the biggest arenas.
That day at Great Valley (after overseeing a session at his summer camp), Magee set out to repair Turner?s plug-ugly jumper. The two of them then convened at Philly U. as often as three times a week over the next month and a half, for sessions lasting 90 minutes or longer.
The result is plain to see: Turner, the 76ers? second-year guard/forward, now has a passable shot, and thus a shot at becoming the player everyone thought he would be, when he was taken second overall in the 2010 draft.
?I?ll never be a flat-out 3-point shooter,? he said during the Sixers? training camp, which wrapped up Wednesday, ?but I?ve got to make the open shots.?
Last year he shot just 42.5 percent from the field (31.8 percent from the arc), while averaging 7.2 points. But his shot now looks smoother, cleaner. His release is quicker, his follow-through picturesque. No longer is his left hand ? i.e., his guide hand ? on top of the ball, leaving his elbow splayed at an unsightly angle. Now that hand is where is should be, alongside the ball.
?That?s what they teach you ? shoot the ball, (and with the) off hand, you should be able to go down and shake somebody?s hand,? coach Doug Collins said.
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Turner not starting: Evan Turner, as expected, wasn?t in the starting lineup Friday, and Collins continues to wonder why that is such a big deal.
He has said several times that he likes Jodie Meeks on the floor with point guard Jrue Holiday and swingman Andre Iguodala because Meeks spreads the floor with the threat of the 3-point shot.
More importantly, Collins said, Turner should take pride in his role off the bench, much like Thaddeus Young and Lou Williams have. Collins calls Young and Williams ?two of my five best players.?
?Kevin McHale didn?t start his whole career,? Collins said. ?It?s interesting to me this emphasis on starting. I played with Bobby Jones, who never started. He was the Sixth Man of the Year, Hall of Famer.
?To me, it?s about getting pieces to fit, and Evan puts a lot of pressure on himself to start, and I?m not going to compound that. I don?t know what the enamorment is with (starting). I never understood that.?
Collins did use Turner for a spell with Iguodala and Holiday, something he was unwilling to do last season.
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Collins has history lesson for Turner on starting
December 16, 2011
Evan Turner started just 14 games during his rookie season. (AP)
WASHINGTON ? Doug Collins has never told Evan Turner about his former teammate Bobby Jones, who aside from being the consummate defender and team guy, rarely ever started a game. Yet, he still went to five All-Star Games.
Collins hasn?t told Turner about Kevin McHale, the Hall of Famer from the Celtics, who was named as one of the NBA?s greatest 50 players of all-time, either. McHale started in just 400 regular-season games during his career, which is well below 50 percent of the games he played.
?He never asked,? Collins said before Friday night?s exhibition opener against the Wizards at the Verizon Center.
Still, Collins says he can?t seem to wrap his head around the idea that any player worth his salt will be in the starting lineup. To Collins, the preoccupation with his starting lineup seems silly.
?Kevin McHale didn?t start his whole career,? Collins said. ?It?s interesting to me the emphasis that is put on starting in this league. I played with Bobby Jones, who never started. He was a Sixth Man of the Year and a Hall of Famer.?
Turner, the second overall pick in the draft last year, started 14 games in his rookie season. Most of those starts came when Andre Iguodala was out for an injury. Meanwhile, shooter Jodie Meeks started 64 games last season and seems poised to get the nod at two-guard again this year.
So when asked if Turner, the big draft pick, has to get into the starting lineup, Collins? answer was succinct.
?Kevin McHale, Bobby Jones,? he said.
?To me, it?s about getting the pieces to fit and Evan puts a lot of pressure on himself to start and I?m not going to compound that,? Collins explained. ?I want Evan to be a damn good player for us and that?s what he?s been doing.?
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Time to watch 76ers' Turner grow
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By JOHN N. MITCHELL
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Published: Saturday, Dec. 17, 2011
It is going to be the inevitable comparison for Evan Turner for the duration of his career, this comparison to the Washington Wizards' John Wall. And sitting in the Verizon Center watching the two share the court in the preseason opener on Friday just compounded that notion.
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Turner continues learning process
Late pass puts Sixers in front
Dec. 21, 2011
Written by
MARTIN FRANK
The News Journal
PHILADELPHIA -- Evan Turner started dribbling toward the baseline in the final three minutes of the game with the 76ers down by a point.
But as he was dribbling, he started thinking that Sixers coach Doug Collins was probably starting to rage with anger.
So he stopped. Then he spotted Jrue Holiday open behind the 3-point line and threw him a pass. Holiday nailed the shot, putting the Sixers in front, as they held off the Washington Wizards 101-94 on Tuesday in their preseason finale.
"I was like, 'Coach is going to kill me because he always tells me don't go toward the baseline,'" Turner said. "I felt the trap coming. So I threw it to Jrue. [Collins] always yells at me about going baseline, so I was saying, 'I'm not supposed to be down here.'"
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76ers? Evan Turner doesn?t want to be compared to John Wall
By Michael Lee
As John Wall approached, Philadelphia 76ers second-year guard Evan Turner got down in his defensive stance, and waited for Wall to make a move. Turner bit as Wall dribbled left, then stumbled as Wall crossed over and drove right. Wall blew past the frozen Turner, then elevated for vicious one-handed jam over Craig Brackins.
Turner went back to the next play, as Wall hooted and cursed, and had to deal with another reminder of the explosiveness and athleticism that led the Wizards select Wall over him with the No. 1 overall choice in June 2010. But since Wall?s dunk merely brought the Wizards within 38 points during an eventual 103-78 loss in the preseason opener on Friday, Turner also left Verizon Center with a victory.
There never was much debate within the Wizards? organization when it came time to take Wall, but there was speculation from outside surrounding Turner, who had won nearly every college player of the year award as a junior at Ohio State.
Wall wound up runner-up to Blake Griffin for rookie of the year, MVP of the Rookie Challenge game, and a near-unanimous choice for the all-rookie team. Turner, the No. 2 pick, was left off nearly every rookie squad as he came off the bench for the 76ers.
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Iguodala, Turner expect better mesh this year
December 21, 2011
They weren?t exactly oil and water, but rare was the time when Sixers head coach Doug Collins would put veteran Andre Iguodala and rookie Evan Turner on the floor at the same time. Through some type of unconsciousness, the vet and the rookie did not mesh well on the court and seemed to have a big brother-little brother relationship off it.
No, the relationship was not adversarial, and to Turner?s and Iguodala?s credit, the players worked through things, culminating with a dinner together during last April's playoffs. On Tuesday night, the pair spent nearly an entire quarter together on the floor during the exhibition finale against Washington.
?Evan has played great and it was great to see him with ?Dre last night,? Collins said.
Iguodala is thoughtful and seemingly introspective, while Turner is young, likes to talk and isn?t shy about much of anything. But Iguodala, in his eighth year with the 76ers, last year took on a mentoring role for players like Turner and Jodie Meeks. A first-round pick in the 2004 draft, Iguodala has been where Turner is now and, considering Turner could eventually assume Iguodala?s role on the team, it bodes well that the two are on the same page.
As far as Iguodala sees it, confidence is the key to Turner?s game.
?He?s a very solid basketball player and a big part of it for him is confidence,? Iguodala said after Wednesday?s practice at the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine. ?It can get away from him from time to time and in order for him to be successful he has to keep his confidence high all the time and just enjoy the game.?
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Iguodala, Turner getting more time together
Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:00 am
By Tom Moore Staff writer
PHILADELPHIA ? Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner played almost the entire fourth quarter together in Tuesday?s 101-94 preseason victory the Wizards.
That rarely happened during the 2010-11 NBA season.
?I thought they did well,? Collins said. ?That?s one of the things I was looking at ? I wanted to see those guys. I know how Jodie fits with Jrue and Dre.
?They were a bigger team and I thought Evan could give us some rebounding and he did. I went with that lineup because it gives us a little bigger perimeter and I thought it would help us on the boards a little bit.?
While Jodie Meeks is likely to start opposite Jrue Holiday at guard, expect Turner to spend a lot of time opposite Iguodala late in games this year.
?It gives me options if Lou (Williams) is not doing it or Jrue?s not out there,? Collins said. ?It helps our rebounding and our defense.?
Iguodala and Turner played 11 minutes, 17 seconds of a possible 12 minutes together in the fourth quarter Tuesday.
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NBA start for Sixers' Turner mirrors Pippen
December 23, 2011
Modest beginnings can still lead to grand endings.
In the fall of 2010, Scottie Pippen was inducted into the basketball Hall of Fame. That capped a 17-year NBA career where he was a seven-time all-star and six-time world champion.
But as a rookie, Pippen, who was selected fifth overall in the 1987 NBA draft, came off the bench. Then Bulls coach, Doug Collins, opted to start Brad Sellers ahead of Pippen. Sellers was a high draft pick as well, selected ninth overall a year earlier. However, unlike Pippen, Sellers? NBA career wasn?t memorable and didn?t have longevity. He played six seasons and had a career average of 6.3 points per game.
Still, Sellers can say he was an NBA starter alongside Michael Jordan. He can also say that for a year Scottie Pippen was his backup.
Second-year wingman Evan Turner, in Collins? mind, is a starter. He has worked hard and is talented enough to be in the Sixers? starting lineup. However, Turner comes off the bench as a reserve.
It is a topic that irks some, confuses others and exasperates Collins.
?I told Evan the other day in front of the team, I said you probably were our hardest worker in the off-season with one goal in mind: to be a starter on this team,? Collins said. ?You are a starter. As one of our better players you are a starter, but what you do for our team with Thad (Young) and Lou (Williams), if I were to put Jodie (Meeks) in your spot and you in his, we are not as good a team because Jodie would get lost with Lou and Thad.?
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Shooting for greatness
Posted: Sunday, December 25, 2011
By Tom Moore Staff writer
PHILADELPHIA ? Evan Turner seemingly didn?t want to step on any toes a year ago.
Despite being the second pick in the 2010 draft, Turner tended to defer to his teammates and regularly passed up shots during a so-so rookie season with the 76ers.
But this is a new year and Turner is much more involved heading into his second NBA season, which begins Monday night in Portland.
After a lockout-extended offseason in which Herb Magee overhauled his flawed jump shot, Turner is optimistic that he?ll be able to show the player he really is ? even better than the guy who was the consensus NCAA Player of the Year as a junior at Ohio State.
?I think I could beat coach (Doug) Collins in a shooting contest ? that?s how confident I am,? said Turner before breaking into a laugh.
While Turner will continue coming off the bench with long-distance shooter Jodie Meeks starting opposite Jrue Holiday at guard, Turner will play significant minutes and really look to score.
?I think I?m definitely going to assert myself more,? Turner said. ?I have the confidence where if there?s a shot that should be taken, I?ll take the shot.
?I want the opportunity to be able to make plays and put the ball in my hands and get shots. Last year, I started a few times and I probably only took two shots in 35 minutes. I might as well have been sitting down. I want an opportunity to contribute.?
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76ers have point-forward role in mind for Turner
By JOHN N. MITCHELL The Philadelphia Inquirer
Published: Sunday, Dec. 25, 2011 -
PHILADELPHIA -- On this night, after making perhaps the most athletic play of the evening, the person laughing and poking fun at Evan Turner's perceived lack of athleticism is - Evan Turner.
"You don't think so?" a smiling Turner said, incredulity all over his face. "My friends talked about it all the time. We used to joke around about it. I'm decently athletic, but I'm not a freak like some guys that are out there."
This was about an hour after Turner, last year the 76ers' first No. 2 overall pick since they whiffed on Shawn Bradley in 1992, had looked anything but athletically challenged.
Coach Doug Collins, committed to boosting Turner's confidence after a shaky rookie season, was playing Turner extended minutes in the preseason opener in Washington just over a week ago. Bringing the ball up against the Wizards, Turner, just right of the three-point line, wrapped a dribble around his back and, in the process, ran 2010 top pick John Wall into a screen set by 7-0, 240-pound Sixers rookie Nikola Vucevic.
The move drew some gasps in the Verizon Center, but more important it gave the 6-7 Turner a wide-open look at the basket just inside the free-throw line. Turner swished a basket that would make the highlights on ESPN. It was part of an impressive stat line that saw him pack 16 points, seven rebounds, and three assists in 30 minutes.
This type of play was mostly absent from Turner's rookie season. Limited playing time quickly whittled away his confidence. And it didn't take long for his jumper - questionable when he left Ohio State - to follow.
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Improving Turner recalls first game in Phoenix
December 27, 2011
PHOENIX ? Evan Turner had just finished playing multiple games of 4-on-4 when he walked over to get some water, wearing a wide grin.
Why not? His team that included Andres Nocioni, Nik Vucevic and LaVoy Allen had won all five halfcourt scrimmages, leaving the length of the court running after each contest to the blue squad. That team consisted of Jodie Meeks, Craig Brackins, Marreese Speights and Tony Battie.
?I am just trying to get better and get real game shots and just learn the system,? Turner said of his structured practice pickup goals. ?I am trying to make my teammates better because when I played as a rookie in the 4-on-4 drill the older guys tried to help me out, so now I am trying to help the new guys out.?
The Sixers were here in Phoenix the same time of year last season. Andre Iguodala was sidelined with his bad Achilles? for the game against the Suns but the Sixers executed well with Turner having a game to remember, or so we thought.
?I don?t remember that game at all,? Turner said jokingly. ?Of course, that was the only good game I had had up to that point. It was a fun up-and-down game. I played well, Jrue (Holiday) played well. Nocioni had a great game. We all filled in for Andre.?
The Sixers won 123-110 with Holiday scoring 25, Turner 23 and Nocioni 22. Nocioni also had 12 rebounds.
The Sixers? formula for success that night was taking care of the ball and running, two areas where they struggled against Portland on Monday.
?We like to run with the best of them,? Turner said. ?Both times we played them (Phoenix) we were taking care of the ball better and we took advantage of defenders like Jrue and Thad (Young) who can force turnovers, and that was advantageous to us.?
Evan Turner ? Looked comfortable. It was alternately amusing and alarming that he missed two free throws almost immediately after checking into the game late in the first quarter, in the wake of all that offseason work with shooting guru Herb Magee. But Turner settled in, making five of his 11 shots from the field and scoring 10 points in 27 minutes off the bench. It will be stunning if he doesn?t have a good year.
Sixers have big plans for Evan Turner By JOHN N. MITCHELL - The Philadelphia Inquirer By JOHN N. MITCHELL
PHOENIX - When Philadelphia 76ers coach Doug Collins took over as coach of the Detroit Pistons, he had a pretty good idea of what he was getting with second-year forward Grant Hill. Collins' son, Chris, was a teammate of Hill's at Duke, and Collins spent much of his time watching Hill play the point for the Blue Devils. Hill, the No.3 overall pick in 1994, had been named the rookie of the year - the first Piston to receive that honor since Isiah Thomas won it for the 1981-82 season - and Collins, aware of his versatility, played Hill extensively at the point.
Collins is going to do the same with second-year guard Evan Turner, although Turner will be coming off the bench. Hill, in his 17th season and now a member of the Suns, thinks Turner will be a good fit playing point forward. "When Doug got there in my second year, he put the ball in my hands, and I enjoyed it," Hill said before Wednesday's game with the Sixers. "It was great. The thing is, knowing Doug, if he thinks you can do that, it means that he trusts your ability, and it gives your team a different look.
Most teams aren't used to having their shooting guard guard the guy who runs the offense." Hill said he sees a lot of similarities between himself and Turner, who played a lot of point guard in his final season at Ohio State. Hill said he wasn't familiar with the situation in Philadelphia. But he believes that Turner will be successful. "He's done it before,"
Hill said. "He's got a year under his belt, and he has a better understanding of the league now, so I don't see it as a big stretch." Collins has spoken to Turner about the role often. "Coach told me that (Hill) ran a lot of things in the system that I need to emulate and learn from," Turner said. "He's a great player and an ideal person. I think for me, that stuff will come in time. But we've still got our Andre Iguodalas and Lou Williamses here, so I can't just take my free range. "But over time we're going to figure it out, and it's going to be unreal."
Evan Turner was the leading scorer off the Sixers? bench. He was 8 for 12 from the field, finishing with 21 points, six rebounds and four assists.
Turner was asked after the win if he is as good right now as he was his junior year at Ohio State. He wouldn?t say yes to that, but he does like the progress of his game.
?My junior year at Ohio State was unbelievable,? Turner said. ?I was pretty damn good back then. Am I approaching it? I am just taking it step by step. It?s only the fifth game. I understand there is going to be some ups and downs, but I am more looking at the rim now as opposed to looking for this pass or the next man. I am asserting myself more each day and I am just having fun.
?He feels like he is a really good player,? Collins said of Turner. ?We know he is. He?s really confident. He is one of our best rebounders and his on-the-ball defense was really good tonight. He has toughness. He is confident with that ball taking it where he wants to go. He is fearless and he is one of our best competitors.?