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What are you seeking, Dayton Inserted Here?

I grew up in Kettering when Fairmont was the king of the hill (1957 - 1961). Our daily uniform consisted of khakis, blue or white oxford cloth shirt, white wool socks and a pair of Bass Weegens (penny loafers). You added a sweater when the weather got cooler. Nine out of ten of us wore a flat top hair cut and you went to the barber shop every two weeks.

Dances began at 8, or right after the football/basketball game, and ended at 11, even the prom. You wore school clothes (see above) to the game and the dance, unless it was a "formal dance" in which case you wore a sport coat, dress slacks (khakis were not 'dress slacks') on Sundays you wore a sport coat and tie to church or a suit. Every male teacher wore a shirt and tie, sport coat or suit every day. I can't remember a female teacher in slacks.

College was not much different. I wore khakis or cords to class along with one of a closet full of Gant oxford cloth shirts, and one of four V-neck sweaters: navy, dark green, burgundy and slate blue. Weegens or chukka boots adorned my feet and the ensemble was topped with a reversibe ski jacket. By the end of my sophmore year I was alternating sweaters with one of my tweed sport coats and I now had a khaki raincoat. We wore sportcoats and ties to keggers and sometimes to football games (especially homecoming). Big dances and Monday night meals meant suit or sport coat. You wouldn't dream of going to the Jai Lai in anything less than a sport coat and tie. Blue jeans (they didn't become 'Levis' until the late 60s) were worn only for chores and play.

It was only when I retured to OSU in 1969, after my two year Army hitch, that dress ceased to be that formal and then it went from one extreme to the other, torn Levis, Jesus slippers, an army fatigue shirt or a tie dye T.

http://www.geocities.com/effbee.geo/diana2.jpg (See pic of Cincibuck back in the day, at a kegger dance)
 
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I'm really floored right now.

No one apparently listens to what the shoe shine negro says

Gator needs to come in for the save

I'm not classeist person in the least but someone on here knows about the various ways to tie a kneck tie
 
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DaytonBuck;1363794; said:
I'm really floored right now.

No one apparently listens to what the shoe shine negro says

Gator needs to come in for the save

I'm not classeist person in the least but someone on here knows about the various ways to tie a kneck tie

Windsor, makes a big ass knot, looks good if you have a narrow tie, looks like someone from the Chernobyl Politboro if the tie is wide. Can cause tie to look more like a bib when done poorly.

Four-in-hand, the simple, once around and then tuck back through. Makes a neat knot when you have a wide tie. Looks like a badly wrapped gift box ribbon when the tie is narrow. Can cause "combination tie and jock strap" look when done poorly.

That fix it for you?
 
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cincibuck;1363792; said:
What are you seeking, Dayton Inserted Here?

I grew up in Kettering when Fairmont was the king of the hill (1957 - 1961). Our daily uniform consisted of khakis, blue or white oxford cloth shirt, white wool socks and a pair of Bass Weegens (penny loafers). You added a sweater when the weather got cooler. Nine out of ten of us wore a flat top hair cut and you went to the barber shop every two weeks.

Dances began at 8, or right after the football/basketball game, and ended at 11, even the prom. You wore school clothes (see above) to the game and the dance, unless it was a "formal dance" in which case you wore a sport coat, dress slacks (khakis were not 'dress slacks') on Sundays you wore a sport coat and tie to church or a suit. Every male teacher wore a shirt and tie, sport coat or suit every day. I can't remember a female teacher in slacks.

College was not much different. I wore khakis or cords to class along with one of a closet full of Gant oxford cloth shirts, and one of four V-neck sweaters: navy, dark green, burgundy and slate blue. Weegens or chukka boots adorned my feet and the ensemble was topped with a reversibe ski jacket. By the end of my sophmore year I was altering sweaters with one of my tweed sport coats and I now had a khaki raincoat. We wore sportcoats and ties to keggers and sometimes to football games (especially homecoming). Big dances and Monday night meals meant suit or sport coat. You wouldn't dream of going to the Jai Lai in anything less than a sport coat and tie. Blue jeans (they didn't become 'Levis' until the late 60s) were worn only for chores and play.

It was only when I retured to OSU in 1969, after my two year Army hitch, that dress ceased to be that formal and then it went from one extreme to the other, torn Levis, Jesus slippers, an army fatigue shirt or a tie dye T.

http://www.geocities.com/effbee.geo/diana2.jpg (See pic of Cincibuck back in the day, at a kegger dance)


There are multiple ways to tie a tie and this is what classy white people do. Attorney's, CEO's and other assorted respected people know about the multiple knots of the tie.



You earn the respect of people with jobs with your tie knott. This is a symbol and sign you're not average rube and you know something. The important person acknowledges your knott and gives you a heads up for such
 
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I get my shoes shined at least twice a month.

As for dressing up in Vegas...I do not wear a tie. I will wear a suit or a sport jacket though.

I know of only 3 ways to tie a tie. Half windsor, windsor, and 4 in hand.
 
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mooktarr;1363831; said:
Can I get a shoe shine?
Only if you can tie a four in hand!
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DaytonBuck;1363796; said:
There are multiple ways to tie a tie and this is what classy white people do. Attorney's, CEO's and other assorted respected people know about the multiple knots of the tie.



You earn the respect of people with jobs with your tie knott. This is a symbol and sign you're not average rube and you know something. The important person acknowledges your knott and gives you a heads up for such

Yeah... he's right. Though, I only know the half Windsor, Windsor and the single overhand... (though that probably has another name)

But, depends on the tie.

If you're working with a pretty high end silk tie... the bigger the knot, the better...

For others... smaller is good, too.

Key is the little pleat/dimple in the fabric coming out of the knot... that takes some practice.

At any rate...

Lets get one thing straight..


Formal wear, is formal wear... Black tie... tux... etc.

Suits are not. In the 50's... when people wore suits and ties to hockey games or whatever... this isn't dressing up. These are normal clothes.

Khakis and a polo/golf shirt? Once again... not dressing up... this is leisure/sportswear.

Jeans? Enjoy your job at the lumber mill.

Anyway... yeah...

I don't wear a suit to work... or anything.

But, I was amazed a few weeks ago, I walked out to my car in khakis and a golf shirt of some kind... and... my neighbor commented about how nice I looked... And I thought, so, this is what its come to?

No, Suits aren't every day apparel anymore... but... the other side of the coin is that just because your shirt has a collar, doesn't mean you're dressed up.
 
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