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this is always in intresting debate but I thought that Friday Night Lights was good. I will tell you thought that it is not very accurate. The book is better, hoever it is every bit as controversial in Odessa still to this day.

I liked Varsity Blues for the most part. The accents needed some serious work(as has been mentioned) but the rest of the thing is not a bad representation of high school football in texas. I will say that i never ran into a teacher at a boobie bar but i have ran into classmates.

here is the list(as i see it):
1.) Rudy
2.) north dallas forty
3) the longest yard
4) friday night lights

others recieving votes: the waterboy, Varsity Blues, nesesary roughness, Ace Ventura: Pet Detective(does that count?)

overrated:
1) any given sunday
2) remember the titans
3) the program

Honestly while football is by far my favorite sport it is just to hard to film well. Baseball has proven time and again that it translates to the big screen the best.
case and point:
The Bad News Bears, Bull Durham, The Natural, Field of Dreams, 61, A League of Their Own, The Sandlot, and the best sports movie ever MAJOR LEAGUE
 
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High Lonesome said:
this is always in intresting debate but I thought that Friday Night Lights was good. I will tell you thought that it is not very accurate. The book is better, hoever it is every bit as controversial in Odessa still to this day.


overrated:
1) any given sunday
2) remember the titans
3) the program
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Friday Night Lights wasnt well received in Odessa becuase it showed the town for the racist rednecks that they are.
The movie changed too many things that did not need changing for my tastes.

Remember the Titans overrated???
 
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strohs said:
Friday Night Lights wasnt well received in Odessa becuase it showed the town for the racist rednecks that they are.
The movie changed too many things that did not need changing for my tastes.

Remember the Titans overrated???
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What is interesting about Friday Night Lights the movie, is that it is the football that was changed-NOT the portrayal of the town, the attitudes, or the characters. In the book, Permian lost it's first game to Marshall, a team w/ a big time RB in a close contest, they did not get their ass kicked by Abilene. Secondly, the Carter game was A-a state semi-final game, and B-a defensive struggle, the final score was 14-9, I believe. For the sake of brevity, Chavez and McDougall were de-emphasized as characters in the movie, which did not take away from anything. Boobie and Billingsley summed up what Permian-and the town of Odessa-were about-best.

Remember the Titans is a great flick. What detracts from it mostly is the constant, Big Chill style 60's feel good music interludes every 5 minutes. I love the Supremes and the Temptations, but enough is enough. Also, the TC Williams team smoked everyone they faced that year in real life, the movie had to add in the on-field drama-there was none of that in real life.
 
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strohs said:
Friday Night Lights wasnt well received in Odessa becuase it showed the town for the racist rednecks that they are.
The movie changed too many things that did not need changing for my tastes.

Remember the Titans overrated???
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well that is partly true, much of the reason that it was not well recieved was that it was not even close to historicly acurate. Have you been to Odessa or do you know many people from there. Sure there are some racists(as there are everywhere unfortunatly) but those are some harsh words you throw out there

the remember the titans thing is just an oppinion... you don't have to agree with it, hell most people that i know don't.

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What is interesting about Friday Night Lights the movie, is that it is the football that was changed-NOT the portrayal of the town, the attitudes, or the characters. In the book, Permian lost it's first game to Marshall, a team w/ a big time RB in a close contest, they did not get their ass kicked by Abilene. Secondly, the Carter game was A-a state semi-final game, and B-a defensive struggle, the final score was 14-9, I believe. For the sake of brevity, Chavez and McDougall were de-emphasized as characters in the movie, which did not take away from anything. Boobie and Billingsley summed up what Permian-and the town of Odessa-were about-best.

Remember the Titans is a great flick. What detracts from it mostly is the constant, Big Chill style 60's feel good music interludes every 5 minutes. I love the Supremes and the Temptations, but enough is enough. Also, the TC Williams team smoked everyone they faced that year in real life, the movie had to add in the on-field drama-there was none of that in real life.
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actually i would say that they left out much of the social aspects of FNL. The book was about the culture of the town. In the movie the only alusion to racism was the use of the word n___r once and the sound of a train in the background when they "crossed the tracks" to boobie's house

the dallas carter defense had jessie armstead that year and they were stout to say the least
 
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High Lonesome said:
well that is partly true, much of the reason that it was not well recieved was that it was not even close to historicly acurate. Have you been to Odessa or do you know many people from there. Sure there are some racists(as there are everywhere unfortunatly) but those are some harsh words you throw out there

actually i would say that they left out much of the social aspects of FNL. The book was about the culture of the town. In the movie the only alusion to racism was the use of the word n___r once and the sound of a train in the background when they "crossed the tracks" to boobie's house
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I knew a guy from Midland when I went to OSU, and he said that everybody in Midland loved the book, and everyone in Odessa hated it-for the reasons that Strohs mentioned. For dramatic purposes, the movie could not go into historical cotext like the book, but I thought the racism was touched on in an effective, but not overrstated way. How accurate do you think the book was-regarding racial attitudes and such in Texas/Odessa?
 
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I agree with North Dallas 40 and the original The Longest Yard. I haven't seen Friday Night Lights yet.

As far as Rudy, I have not seen that movie. I managed not to throw up watching "'Knute Rockne: All-American", where Ronald Reagan played the dying George Gipp. Rudy came out in 1993, the last time ND won a bowl game. I figure that as long as I don't see it, they won't win another bowl game.

Why mess with a good thing just to see a hobbit turn into a fucking leprechaun? Those echoes can sleep like Rip Van Winkle for all I care.
 
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What is interesting about Friday Night Lights the movie, is that it is the football that was changed
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Didn't they also change how Boobie tore up his knee? I think in the book, he blew it in a scrimmage trying to make a cut or something, with no contact. In the movie, I think it happened in the first game as the result of a hit.
 
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stxbuck said:
I knew a guy from Midland when I went to OSU, and he said that everybody in Midland loved the book, and everyone in Odessa hated it-for the reasons that Strohs mentioned. For dramatic purposes, the movie could not go into historical cotext like the book, but I thought the racism was touched on in an effective, but not overrstated way. How accurate do you think the book was-regarding racial attitudes and such in Texas/Odessa?
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well unfortunatly I think that the book was pretty acurate as far as the racial stuff with one difference. I have met very few people that just throw around racial slurs like they are nothing.(for instance the scene in the movie when they are sitting at the dinner table and say something to the effect," how is that n___r running back this year") I hear plenty of slurs in anger, and some in jest, but very few are just part of every day venacular. The book makes it sound like the n word is as prevelant as "ya'll" and thats just not true.
 
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coxew said:
Didn't they also change how Boobie tore up his knee? I think in the book, he blew it in a scrimmage trying to make a cut or something, with no contact. In the movie, I think it happened in the first game as the result of a hit.
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This is more what I was talking about in terms of differences between the book and movie.
He did in fact blow out his knee during a scrimmage.
He also came back during the season and carried the ball a few times before quitting, IIRC.
Its stuff like that, scores of games they won, changing when boobie was injured and so on that made me mad.
 
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