BayBuck;1582804; said:
I understand very well how you understand things Gator.
I understand very well how you understand very well how I understand very well how Muck understands...
FYI, the quote Muck used was when I was engaged in a discussion about why I felt that the actions of a player did not automatically reflect on the ethical makeup of that player's coach. I was primarily refuting the posters who were calling out Urban as a known questionable ethics type coach.
The separate discussion is about Spikes and his actions. I have made it clear numerous times that I do not condone what he did. That said, I - like you - expect players to follow the rules. In that game the rules were not being followed. A lot. And the refs were not taking care of it by throwing flags when that shit became the "norm" that day. That (the refs either failing or unable to take control of the game) leaves you two choices: one, do nothing in response to the late hitting, spitting, eye gouging, chop blocking, throat punching brawl and let the other team do what it wants while you appeal to the better angels of their nature while we pray for refereeing intervention, or two, take it to them the same way they are taking it to you.
A bad choice really, as we all want a clean game and no advantage obtained by dirty play.
I saw that Tebow, not usually known for pointing fingers or bad mouthing anyone, said this:
"I don't think that we did anything in that game that they didn't do," Tebow said. "If you go back and look at it and study it, you can see on the film too. It was an intense game. Both teams were very passionate about it."
That's about the closest you'll find Tebow engage in a verbal rift with an opposing team.
When asked whether the Georgia game was dirtier than usual, he said "probably a little bit," but he wouldn't disclose his most horrific moment in the bottom of the pile. "They wanted to do whatever they can to get an edge," Tebow said. "It happens a lot in college football. It happens more than people think. It's not something I feel I need to converse about."
That is as close as you will get Tim to say that it was a very dirty game and that a lot of shit goes on. In light of that, my opinion is that it is a shame to put in all on Spikes, as a review of the game tape would show lots of stuff. Some unhappy mutt fan made it a Youtube event. There were dozens of youtube events that day that will go unpunished, including the late hit on Tebow that was not called while he was standing there looking the other way. He was not re-concussed. But then, neither was the mutt back hurt. His eyes were, and are, fine. So I hate that Spikes is singled out while the asshole who hit Tebow (let alone the asshole who gouged Tim's eye's earlier) also walks.
I agree Spikes was wrong. I have no problem with the punishment. I have a problem with him being singled out, which my expressing does not say that he does not deserve the punishment. Those two thoughts can live in my head independently. And I do not see how it compares
exactly to a play where an actual injury occurred that put the opposing QB out of the game. But that is just me.
This horse is dead. On to Vandy and ultimately Atlanta.
