Final Rivals.com Top 150 For 2007 (Updated 5/22/07)

[MaxBuck]

OK, I'll bite. I've seen Calathes only twice, but he really impressed me both times -- more, to be frank, than Kosta. Not that I am in any way disappointed in Koufos, but I think the Gaytors got a good one. Great court vision, high hoop IQ, good passer. Agreed that the athleticism isn't there, but Steve Kerr, Mateen Cleaves and Mark Price didn't set any decathlon records either.

 

[akronbuck]

OK, I'll bite. I've seen Calathes only twice, but he really impressed me both times -- more, to be frank, than Kosta. Not that I am in any way disappointed in Koufos, but I think the Gaytors got a good one. Great court vision, high hoop IQ, good passer. Agreed that the athleticism isn't there, but Steve Kerr, Mateen Cleaves and Mark Price didn't set any decathlon records either.

Did you see Kosta in that joke all star game or a high school?

In all the high school games I saw he was by far a STAR. I never seen a 7'2 guy bring the ball up the court to beat full court pressure and then he hits 3's .
Please name one high school kid that is over 7 that ever did those things in a game. Yes, he needs some strength . The all star games are a show for the kids to move up there ranking with the NBA teams. Kosta didn't get one pass to him while, he was getting assists.

In the state game he was double or triple teamed all game. Kinda like the Pistons against Lebron last night

 

[akronbuck]

Don't they always with Rivals...

They freakin' list are just becoming laughable IMO...

I guess 7'1' guys that can shoot the 3 play in the post and put the ball on the floor come a dime a dozen now a days...

He is projected in the lottery next year in some mock drafts...Rivals needs to get a freakin' clue...

bingo . I'll enjoy his one year at :osu:

 

[starBUCKS]

Final rankings out today:

Rivals

5/22

Of note:

#2 Eric Gorgon
#4 OJ Mayo
#7 Bill Walker
#16 Kosta Kofous
#24 Solomon Alabi
#31 Herb Pope
#35 E'Twaun Moore
#43 Alex Legion
#48 Evan Turner
#49 Alex Tyus
#58 Jon Diebler
#71 Robbie Hummel
#82 Chris Wright
#89 Dante Jackson
#104 Dorenzo Hudson
#112 Dallas Lauderdale
#116 Eric Wallace
#126 Rakim Sanders

Was the truth ever uncovered why Herb Pope left the east coast to go to New Mexico State University?

 

[crazybuckfan40]

unless the team needs a (weak, unathletic) guard, you wouldn't find a single college coach who would take calathes over koufos. not one. well, maybe one. there will always be idiots.

I am not dogging on Calathes in any way, he is a good player, but no way he should be ranked ahead of KK, no way no how...

Also there is no way that KK should be ranked in the top 10...

I would put him at number 7 right behind Love, and I think that Walker should be taken out of these rankings...

I would also put Tuner in the top 50 somewhere...

Also Lauderdale is too low, and same with Wallace...

 

[Cornerback6]

Regardless, 5 of the top 116 is nothing to scoff at.

A few years ago, if someone told us that our recruiting class would consist of the following ranked players, we'd be rioting in the streets in bliss. Rivals has done some homework, now let's let our boys get on the court and show them how wrong or right they were. Hopefully the latter.

Good stuff.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Regardless, 5 of the top 116 is nothing to scoff at.

A few years ago, if someone told us that our recruiting class would consist of the following ranked players, we'd be rioting in the streets in bliss. Rivals has done some homework, now let's let our boys get on the court and show them how wrong or right they were. Hopefully the latter.

Good stuff.

I totally agree, but the the thing that gets me is the biases, to some guys...

Either way I am very happy about this class, and they might take their lumps early next season, but come big ten season they will be ready to go...

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

I am not dogging on Calathes in any way, he is a good player, but no way he should be ranked ahead of KK, no way no how...

i'm not saying that he's not good. what i am saying, however, is that he is the most overrated player this year and in no way belongs in front of a lot of players. he is not quick, cannot jump, plays short, is very weak, and has an average shooting form at best. although, what he has in spades is court awareness.

he may turn out to be a very good player by the time he graduates, but the rankings from scout and rivals are evaluations of the players as they are now. there is very little about calathes that i've seen that would lead me to rank him ahead of, say, diebler--let alone a great number of other players.

i agree that "no way no how" should calathes be ranked ahead of koufos. that is an absolute joke. i think the same can be claimed when contrasting calathes to almost any other player in the top 25.

 

[MaxBuck]

i'm not saying that he's not good. what i am saying, however, is that he is the most overrated player this year and in no way belongs in front of a lot of players. he is not quick, cannot jump, plays short, is very weak, and has an average shooting form at best. although, what he has in spades is court awareness.

he may turn out to be a very good player by the time he graduates, but the rankings from scout and rivals are evaluations of the players as they are now. there is very little about calathes that i've seen that would lead me to rank him ahead of, say, diebler--let alone a great number of other players.

i agree that "no way no how" should calathes be ranked ahead of koufos. that is an absolute joke. i think the same can be claimed when contrasting calathes to almost any other player in the top 25.

Buckguy, I evidently rate court awareness and handles ahead of just about everything else when it comes to point guards, and Calathes has those in spades as you say (of his court awareness, at least). And although his shot isn't pure, it beats the heck out of somebody like Doug Gottlieb, who despite the fact he couldn't hit the ocean from the beach was a terrific collegiate point. No way Diebler is in Calathes's category IMO; I believe Calathes is a top-5 recruit.

Of course, I could be wrong. In any event, I'm overjoyed with the Buckeye freshman class of '07.
GO BUCKS!

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Buckguy, I evidently rate court awareness and handles ahead of just about everything else when it comes to point guards, and Calathes has those in spades as you say (of his court awareness, at least). And although his shot isn't pure, it beats the heck out of somebody like Doug Gottlieb, who despite the fact he couldn't hit the ocean from the beach was a terrific collegiate point. No way Diebler is in Calathes's category IMO; I believe Calathes is a top-5 recruit.

Of course, I could be wrong. In any event, I'm overjoyed with the Buckeye freshman class of '07.
GO BUCKS!

I agree that Calthes is good, but a top 5 recruit is putting him in the class of Mayo, Rose, Gordan, and he is not in a class with those guys...

 

[wadc45]

Was the truth ever uncovered why Herb Pope left the east coast to go to New Mexico State University?

He developed a great relationship with Reggie Theus. NMSU could be a mid-major power in a few years.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Buckguy, I evidently rate court awareness and handles ahead of just about everything else when it comes to point guards, and Calathes has those in spades as you say...

there are two sides to a basketball court. a guard's value is not just found on the offensive end. he is a severe liability on defense.

No way Diebler is in Calathes's category IMO; I believe Calathes is a top-5 recruit.

no offense, max, but those two statements are completely inaccurate. there is very little that calathes does that diebler cannot do better. diebler is a better shooter, better jumper, better defender (yes), and is a good enough passer to give calathes a run.

if diebler had on his high school team half the player that parsons was for calathes, my statements would be all the more apparent. who on diebler's team went up for so many alley oops that make highlight clips for calathes? who on diebler's team played around the rim so much that it opened up the outside like it did for calathes? who on diebler's team was so good that defenders were forced not to double- and triple-team him?

however, this really isn't about calathes versus diebler. this is about all of the players that were rated behind calathes who in no way should be considered inferior. whatever. in the end, the scout and rivals player rankings matter only off the court. we'll see soon enough what the true rankings are.

finally, i'm not even sure what to say to someone who thinks that calathes is one of the 5 best players to become a college freshman. wow... just... wow. that just boggles my mind that someone would claim that.

 

[LitlBuck]

OK, I'll bite. I've seen Calathes only twice, but he really impressed me both times -- more, to be frank, than Kosta. Not that I am in any way disappointed in Koufos, but I think the Gaytors got a good one. Great court vision, high hoop IQ, good passer. Agreed that the athleticism isn't there, but Steve Kerr, Mateen Cleaves and Mark Price didn't set any decathlon records either.

This really doesn't deserve a reply but you might want to ask Donovan
Who he would
rather have and I think I know the answer.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

He developed a great relationship with Reggie Theus. NMSU could be a mid-major power in a few years.

when the job came open i was saying that...


also these rankings arent worth the paper youd print them on once the kids go away to school...

 

[ScriptOhio]

Re-ranking the recruiting classes: Who are the 25 best players in the Class of 2007?

July’s live recruiting period is right around the corner, meaning that the Class of 2016 will have a chance to truly prove themselves to the recruiters and the recruitniks around the country. Scholarships will be earned and rankings will be justified over the course of those three weekends in July.

But scholarship offers and rankings don’t always tell us who the best players in a given class will end up being. Ask Steph Curry. Over the course of the coming weeks, we will be re-ranking eight recruiting classes, from 2004-2011, based on what they have done throughout their post-high school career.

Here are the 25 best players from the Class of 2007, with their final Rivals Top 150 ranking in parentheses:

1. Derrick Rose (3)
2. James Harden (11)
3. Blake Griffin (23)
4. Kevin Love (6)
5. Jeff Teague (57)
6. DeAndre Jordan (8)
7. Chandler Parsons (19)
8. O.J. Mayo (4)
9. Eric Gordon (2)
10. Jerryd Bayless (13)

12. Evan Turner (49): Like Patterson, Turner played three seasons in college. Unlike Patterson, Turner earned National Player of the Year honors in 2010 and was a unanimous All-Big Ten selection in each of his final two seasons at Ohio State. Turner played four seasons in Philadelphia before moving on to Boston, where he averaged 9.5 points, 5.1 rebounds and 5.5 assists per game this past season.

19. Kosta Koufos (16): Koufos averaged 14.4 points and 6.7 rebounds per game in his lone season at Ohio State, going on to be a first round pick of the Jazz in 2008. He’s averaging 5.4 points and 4.7 rebounds per game at the NBA level.

Notables:

Jon Diebler (60)

See entire article: http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...are-the-25-best-players-in-the-class-of-2007/

Just sayin': Needless to say, ranking high school recruits isn't an exact science.