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GF mom pleads guilty in breast-feeding case | Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, North Dakota

GF mom pleads guilty in breast-feeding case

A Grand Forks mother who police say was "extremely intoxicated" while breast-feeding her 6-week-old pleaded guilty to child neglect Tuesday.
Officers responded to an unrelated call at a Grand Forks residence in the early morning of Feb. 13 and saw 26-year-old Stacey Anvarinia slurring her speech and breastfeeding, prosecutor Meredith Larson told the judge.
Citing a police report, Larson said officers were concerned about the infant?s welfare, so they called Altru Hospital and were told that breast-feeding while intoxicated was not good for the child.

"Ms. Anvarinia was notified of that, and she continued to make attempts to breast-feed," Larson said.

Anvarinia, who no longer is in custody, is slated to be sentenced on the Class C felony charge Aug. 7.

Judge Sonja Clapp of state District Court said Anvarinia will not have to register as an offender against children.
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Is Drunk Breastfeeding A Form Of Child Abuse? | The Frisky

Add this to the list of things not to do while drunk: breastfeed. Stacey Anvarinia, 26, from North Dakota, didn?t catch that memo. Earlier this year, police officers responded to an unrelated call at her home when they noticed she was drinking while breastfeeding. The brilliant cops weren?t sure if that was okay, so they put in a call to the local hospital to confirm that was not so good for the 6-week-old baby. The baby was taken out of Anvarinia?s custody. Yesterday, she plead guilty to child neglect and now she?s facing up to five years in prison. Clearly, the baby was put in harm?s way, even if the cops didn?t know it at first. But do you think this should be considered child abuse?
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jimotis4heisman;1488202; said:
so you cant drink/smoke/use caffeine, etc at any time during the breast feeding stage?
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I would agree. It's a conscious choice to not do those things for the safety of the baby the same way you wouldn't(shouldn't) do those things during a pregnancy.

Would you be offended if you saw a pregnant woman with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other? I would, and I would continue to feel that way until the child was fully released to a completely independent food source.
 
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OCBuckWife;1488207; said:
I would agree. It's a conscious choice to not do those things for the safety of the baby the same way you wouldn't(shouldn't) do those things during a pregnancy.

Would you be offended if you saw a pregnant woman with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other? I would, and I would continue to feel that way until the child was fully released to a completely independent food source.
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Reasonable/occasional use of alcohol and caffeine are perfectly acceptable during the breastfeeding stage, since they can pass through the system without affecting the breast milk, unlike during pregnancy where the baby is exposed to every substance that passes through the mother's system. Breastfeeding while drunk is a definite no-no, but after a couple of hours it's fine, especially after the baby reaches 2-3 of months.
 
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BayBuck;1488519; said:
Reasonable/occasional use of alcohol and caffeine are perfectly acceptable during the breastfeeding stage, since they can pass through the system without affecting the breast milk, unlike during pregnancy where the baby is exposed to every substance that passes through the mother's system. Breastfeeding while drunk is a definite no-no, but after a couple of hours it's fine, especially after the baby reaches 2-3 of months.
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But they do not "pass through the system without affecting the breast milk", it is the same effects as on the blood stream, thus the waiting period mentioned.

Sure, if the mother is able to be reasonable and to wait to have that glass of wine or two until after she breastfeeds, since feedings are usually 2-4 hrs between. That would be the perfect amount of time for the alcohol to clear the mother's system at the established rate. That is the only way drinking during that time period would be at all acceptable in my own opinion.


I know it is just my opinion but I just don't understand taking the chance when other choices are available.
 
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OCBuckWife;1488526; said:
But they do not "pass through the system without affecting the breast milk", it is the same effects as on the blood stream, thus the waiting period mentioned.

Sure, if the mother is able to be reasonable and to wait to have that glass of wine or two until after she breastfeeds, since feedings are usually 2-4 hrs between. That would be the perfect amount of time for the alcohol to clear the mother's system at the established rate. That is the only way drinking during that time period would be at all acceptable in my own opinion.

I know it is just my opinion but I just don't understand taking the chance when other choices are available.
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When the alcohol goes through the system over that couple of hours, it has not affected the breast milk that the baby will drink--that's why there's no need to "pump and dump" after drinking. I think we're on the same page about not drinking when it can directly affect the baby, but JO was asking if you were against all those substances during the "breastfeeding stage", which can be a full 6-12 months after birth. Unlike during pregnancy, it can be safe when used reasonably during that breastfeeding period.
 
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OCBuckWife;1488207; said:
I would agree. It's a conscious choice to not do those things for the safety of the baby the same way you wouldn't(shouldn't) do those things during a pregnancy.

Would you be offended if you saw a pregnant woman with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other? I would, and I would continue to feel that way until the child was fully released to a completely independent food source.
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Offended is one thing.

But should it be a felony?

I'm offended by parents who let their kids sit around and play video games... that's probably not good for them either...

At any rate, no one is arguing that the things that you mention here are "bad" I don't think... but... do we need laws for it?

What if you give them high cholesterol snacks when they are 5?
 
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