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ESPN and Recruiting (Split from Ashley Thread)

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Be water my friend.
Ohio State is taking a national beating while all of these other schools are shown in nothing but positive light.

The only thing we can be thankful for is that the season is over and the media coverage should slow somewhat.

God forbid if something comes out in the next two weeks.
 
Has anyone considered that part of the reason ESPN hammered home the allegation during the Alamo Bowl being that they wanted to hurt OSU recruiting. Certainly, every Ohio State recruit was watching that game, and that had to hurt us. Trev and Mark know how important recruiting is and they are still burned about being completely WRONG in 2002. Such a powerful anti-OSU recruiting tool in their hands and in the hands of Lemming and opposing coaches will really hurt us down the stretch. It's a damn shame too. This is already a darn good class, but it could have been great.
 
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There's no doubt in my mind that it was at least part of their motivation.
I just want to add that I'm 44 years old and have been watching sports avidly since I could hold my head up and I have never seen such a blatant attempt at character assassination by a media organization in my life.
Cedric Benson was arrested every offseason and never missed a down.
Larry Harrison (tsun's serial flasher) played in the Rose Bowl (which tsun lost)
Players screw up at EVERY major university in the country, schools like Michigan, Texas, Tennessee look the other way.
Ohio State does not, we keep our house clean. Much cleaner than most.( I know some of you don't believe that but its true)
I COULD NOT BE ANY MORE PROUD OF MY UNIVERSITY, MY HEAD COACH,OR MY A.D. THEY ARE INTEGRITY AND DIGNITY PERSONIFIED.
People like Mark May are small,bitter,insignificant and hateful of anything they percieve as better than them. They are rumor mongers. If you build something beautiful they only seek to destroy it.
What goes around comes around, and those that create hate eventually will have to wallow in it.

/couldn't find rant font
 
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crazybuckeye said:
Cedric Benson was arrested every offseason and never missed a down.
Larry Harrison (tsun's serial flasher) played in the Rose Bowl (which tsun lost)
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Crazy, while I agree with your assessment that tOSU keeps a much cleaner house than most, these 2 statements are inaccurate.

Cedric Benson missed the '03 Baylor game for his 'recovery' of the flat screen TV from someone else's room. (yeah, I know, Baylor!) When he was found guilty of that offense before this season started, they determined that the prior suspension was adequate. (Plus, they presumably didn't want to hurt his Heisman chances).

And Harrison didn't play in the Rose Bowl. This quote is from a newspaper article in his 'recently arraigned' thread.

"Harrison was suspended from the football team in early December because of the charges. He started at defensive tackle in seven games, recording 24 tackles, including one for a loss. The Wolverines played without Harrison during the Rose Bowl on New Year’s Day."<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
 
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The yet to be potty trained Stenavich played in the RB. Benson was also arrested for possession of marijuana and drug paraphenalia when he was 19. The girl with him took the rap.

My concern about recruiting and ESPN is that the pieces of shit Trev and May are usually at the Army game, and no doubt will be pissing on Tressel's name.
 
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StadiumDorm said:
Has anyone considered that part of the reason ESPN hammered home the allegation during the Alamo Bowl being that they wanted to hurt OSU recruiting. Certainly, every Ohio State recruit was watching that game, and that had to hurt us. Trev and Mark know how important recruiting is and they are still burned about being completely WRONG in 2002. Such a powerful anti-OSU recruiting tool in their hands and in the hands of Lemming and opposing coaches will really hurt us down the stretch. It's a damn shame too. This is already a darn good class, but it could have been great.
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First, the idea that there is some kind of conspiracy at ESPN to intentionally hurt Ohio State is not a viable idea. Does that mean I agree with the way ESPN has handled this whole saga? NOT IN THE LEAST. But come on, do you realize how ridiculous it sounds to suggest ESPN is intentionally hurting Ohio State? The things that ESPN is reporting.... newsflash.... actually happend. Clarett actually said the things he said. Smith actually took money from a booster. Gieger did, in fact, retire. Now, their commentary on the news can (and often IS) over the top. But, look at the reaction it's getting from Ohio State fans. You know what that equates to? MORE ratings. (see, Private Parts, the movie. "Yeah, but what's his rating among Stern haters?" "Even higher. And they listen for longer. Top reason? I just gotta know what he's gonna say next.")

Second, in order to believe you theory, you have to assume that these recruits think Mark and Trev are more powerful than I can give credit for. I mean, christ, if you are swayed from making a life decision because of some talking heads' opinion you've got, as they say, issues.
 
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My biggest concern actually is that Lemming will use these allegations against us. We all know how fond he is of Ohio State. But Alberts and May do take their recruiting potshots at Ohio State. They talk about how uninteresting the offense is and what high school athlete would want to play in it. They've beaten the allegations and the possible punishments to death. To say that these two don't have some sort of vendetta against OSU is to give them too much credit. During 2002, they hammered home over and over how Ohio State couldn't beat Iowa, or that they would get crushed by Miami. After the Fiesta Bowl, how much crow did they eat? None. Ohio State fans certainly gave it to them throughout the season and after the game. That has to still burn. So I would have to say that there IS probably some sort of vendetta on their part as well. I mean, really, how many positive comments have they ever made about the Buckeyes?

ESPN as a whole probably does not have this vendetta. But, they did run the Clarett story like it was fucking Watergate. So, I think they do have a stake in Ohio State getting sanctioned at this point. They want to validate the way they ran their stories - and if you read some of them, they were completely one-sided. Not saying the stories aren't true or won't be proven to be true. But, that they were extremely one-sided at the time. And they are still pretty darn one-side. I don't think ESPN the network hates Ohio States, or has something against the university. But they do want to see their story given credit, and for them, that would come with Ohio State getting sanctions.
 
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StadiumDorm said:
My biggest concern actually is that Lemming will use these allegations against us. We all know how fond he is of Ohio State. But Alberts and May do take their recruiting potshots at Ohio State. They talk about how uninteresting the offense is and what high school athlete would want to play in it. They've beaten the allegations and the possible punishments to death. To say that these two don't have some sort of vendetta against OSU is to give them too much credit. During 2002, they hammered home over and over how Ohio State couldn't beat Iowa, or that they would get crushed by Miami. After the Fiesta Bowl, how much crow did they eat? None. Ohio State fans certainly gave it to them throughout the season and after the game. That has to still burn. So I would have to say that there IS probably some sort of vendetta on their part as well. I mean, really, how many positive comments have they ever made about the Buckeyes?

ESPN as a whole probably does not have this vendetta. But, they did run the Clarett story like it was fucking Watergate. So, I think they do have a stake in Ohio State getting sanctioned at this point. They want to validate the way they ran their stories - and if you read some of them, they were completely one-sided. Not saying the stories aren't true or won't be proven to be true. But, that they were extremely one-sided at the time. And they are still pretty darn one-side. I don't think ESPN the network hates Ohio States, or has something against the university. But they do want to see their story given credit, and for them, that would come with Ohio State getting sanctions.
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You make some good points. Still, Trev and Mark aren't involved with recruits like Lemmonhead is. I'd worry more about him. The thing about May and Alberts getting their Iowa and Miami picks so wrong is that decreases their credibility. Certainly hasn't run them out of town, but I will tell you, I have seen Alberts improve since those days. He is till not very good, and his rant at the alamo half time didn't help, but the guy at least made an effort in 03 and most of 04 to be objective. May, on the other hand, should be fired. He's done nothing but make overstatement after overstatement that end up failing to come to fruition (big surprise)

Favorite May comment of all time - after beating Purdue on "Holy Buckeye!" what does May have to say? "Ohio State doesn't even deserved to be ranked." Now wait.... You could say "Ohio State doesn't deserve to be ranked top 5 - something that I'd also object to, btw - but no... he says not ranked at all. That was the moment in time that I last gave the least little hoot about what ESPN had to say "analytically" It's not worth it, guys. Stop worrying about those clowns.

The Program has survived worse. It will survive this too.
 
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I think one of the reasons ESPN has it in for tOSU is because of all the dorks who troll internet message boards and then circulate petitions to get ESPN personalities fired. And flood-email ESPN complaining about how Ohio State is mistreated. And so on.

All universities have some dork fans, but sometimes I think Ohio State is the dork capital of the universe.
 
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