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ESPNs headline on their website this morning, since changed: “Gase admits he failed to groom Darnold”
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During the last two Saturday game broadcasts that Chris Fowler was on, the trivia question dealt with something involving AP poll rankings. Each time, when the question was discussed, Fowler said “the poll began in 1938”, when the weekly poll actually originated in 1936. Apparently nobody corrected him after the first week. I’m waiting to see if he continues to get that wrong, and if anybody at the network cares.
One of the questions was to name the 2 teams that had a losing record the year after finishing #1 in the AP poll. I knew that tOSU in 1942/43 was one due to the impact of WWII. The other team was TCU in 1938/39. LSU has a chance to be the third team to do so.
One of the questions was to name the 2 teams that had a losing record the year after finishing #1 in the AP poll. I knew that tOSU in 1942/43 was one due to the impact of WWII. The other team was TCU in 1938/39. LSU has a chance to be the third team to do so.
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Question for my Buckeye Brothers regarding ESPN ....
What does the ESPN value more ... A one time / single event boost in ratings for a game or the "long play" of protecting / elevating their conference affiliations (SEC and ACC).
I.E. Having the Buckeyes in the CFP given their ability to garner huge ratings vs. stacking the CFP with teams from those two conferences.
This time of year always seems to bring this issue to the forefront. That plus I'm still salty over last years playoff game where ESPN is given the ability to schedule an SEC ref crew to decide who plays the SEC team in the finals.
What does the ESPN value more ... A one time / single event boost in ratings for a game or the "long play" of protecting / elevating their conference affiliations (SEC and ACC).
I.E. Having the Buckeyes in the CFP given their ability to garner huge ratings vs. stacking the CFP with teams from those two conferences.
This time of year always seems to bring this issue to the forefront. That plus I'm still salty over last years playoff game where ESPN is given the ability to schedule an SEC ref crew to decide who plays the SEC team in the finals.
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@billmac91 can probably speak to this better than I, but in my IMO they've put all their eggs in the SEC and ACC (mostly just Clemson, let's be real) and they're slowly realizing, despite all their attempts to hype, not enough people give a shit about SEC and ACC football. Which is to say, People from Maine to Seattle to Austin, up to say Kansas, all through the midwest, and back up to Maine...some 75% of the country don't fucking care about SEC/ACC football. Because, as anyone who's ever had the "my conference is better than your conference" argument eventually comes to realize is - college football is regional. It's in the bones of the product. And, of course, this makes sense.. It's being regional is actually an expansion of what it truly is... It's MY SCHOOL, or my state's flagship school, that I care about.
As an aside, I had this discussion with a friend who moved to Georgia and he was all upset when the B1G teams were getting waxed in bowl games and he said he'd have to listen to all the bullshit from his new friends down there. I said, "Why?" He said because Purdue is getting its ass handed to them by (whoever they were playing) and I said, "Sure... but why do you give a good god damn what Purdue is doing?" and he says, "They're in the B1G" and I said "Well, sure. I obviously know that. But, you know what? I'm not a fan of the B1G. I'm a fan of Ohio State. Tell you what, the next time you watch a game with your friends and a SEC chant breaks out, ask them if they ever chant NFC South! NFC South! When they say, well, no, of course not, ask them why they would give a rats ass about the SEC so much so that they'll chant SEC even when their own team just got pantsed by Alabama.
Anyway... all that to say this... the model they've decided on wasn't viable. There aren't enough eyeballs on SEC/ACC football and rather than try and play nice, they decided to go even a step further and actively alienate fans of other schools in other conferences. And, lets face it.. even as it is, they're not pumping up Vandy or Kentucky, etc.. It's Alabama and Clemson with a supporting cast of Georgia and Florida, along with LSU and and Aggie (which.. if you need evidence they're trying too hard, Aggie is it) They got a boost with the ACC's footsie with NoD this year, but even that isn't enough eyeballs.. because NoD fans aren't going to suddenly start giving a shit about Wake Forest or North Carolina games. ESPN needs the eyeballs our fanbase brings to stay afloat.
As an aside, I had this discussion with a friend who moved to Georgia and he was all upset when the B1G teams were getting waxed in bowl games and he said he'd have to listen to all the bullshit from his new friends down there. I said, "Why?" He said because Purdue is getting its ass handed to them by (whoever they were playing) and I said, "Sure... but why do you give a good god damn what Purdue is doing?" and he says, "They're in the B1G" and I said "Well, sure. I obviously know that. But, you know what? I'm not a fan of the B1G. I'm a fan of Ohio State. Tell you what, the next time you watch a game with your friends and a SEC chant breaks out, ask them if they ever chant NFC South! NFC South! When they say, well, no, of course not, ask them why they would give a rats ass about the SEC so much so that they'll chant SEC even when their own team just got pantsed by Alabama.
Anyway... all that to say this... the model they've decided on wasn't viable. There aren't enough eyeballs on SEC/ACC football and rather than try and play nice, they decided to go even a step further and actively alienate fans of other schools in other conferences. And, lets face it.. even as it is, they're not pumping up Vandy or Kentucky, etc.. It's Alabama and Clemson with a supporting cast of Georgia and Florida, along with LSU and and Aggie (which.. if you need evidence they're trying too hard, Aggie is it) They got a boost with the ACC's footsie with NoD this year, but even that isn't enough eyeballs.. because NoD fans aren't going to suddenly start giving a shit about Wake Forest or North Carolina games. ESPN needs the eyeballs our fanbase brings to stay afloat.
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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
Turnwd on tv and was still on ESPN from NFL game and they were saying if Florida wins and Clemson wins it will be Clemson, Florida, Bama, ND and tOSU is left out. Rece Davis brought up '17 and '18 for Buckeyes. How TF do people watch this trash.
Fuck you
ICHIGAN!
Fuck you
ICHIGAN!
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bukIpower
Head Coach
He's probably not wrong unless the committee wants no part of Clemson vs ND part 3 which would happen in round 1.Turnwd on tv and was still on ESPN from NFL game and they were saying if Florida wins and Clemson wins it will be Clemson, Florida, Bama, ND and tOSU is left out. Rece Davis brought up '17 and '18 for Buckeyes. How TF do people watch this trash.
Fuck you
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Lmao...Turnwd on tv and was still on ESPN from NFL game and they were saying if Florida wins and Clemson wins it will be Clemson, Florida, Bama, ND and tOSU is left out. Rece Davis brought up '17 and '18 for Buckeyes. How TF do people watch this trash.
Fuck you
So...
SEC Championship is Florida Alabama..
ACC Championship is ND Clemson
And the tournament they want to broadcast are the same goddamned teams?
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
GOOD TRY, GOOD EFFORT. In a day just filled with terrible takes on Twitter, this one struck me – not because it was the worst by any means, but because it made me realize that what is considered a "luxury" is totally relative. And I don't think Peter Burns sees that.
See, Northwestern may genuinely feel like Ohio State has the advantage of a bye week, but I promise the Buckeyes would gladly trade places and play Illinois this weekend while the Wildcats took that bye week.
To Ohio State, Northwestern probably has the advantage of not having to cancel so many games this year. So if they wanted to cancel this week's game to have that extra prep, I don't think you'd see any complaining at all.
More than anything else, this just comes off as Burns looking for something to be angry about, which is annoying.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...ohio-state-the-games-cancellation-cost-fox-18
Peter Burns, ESPN SEC Network Studio Anchor........at ESPN "it just means more" to be a SEC Network Studio Anchor......
See, Northwestern may genuinely feel like Ohio State has the advantage of a bye week, but I promise the Buckeyes would gladly trade places and play Illinois this weekend while the Wildcats took that bye week.
To Ohio State, Northwestern probably has the advantage of not having to cancel so many games this year. So if they wanted to cancel this week's game to have that extra prep, I don't think you'd see any complaining at all.
More than anything else, this just comes off as Burns looking for something to be angry about, which is annoying.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...ohio-state-the-games-cancellation-cost-fox-18
Peter Burns, ESPN SEC Network Studio Anchor........at ESPN "it just means more" to be a SEC Network Studio Anchor......
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scarletmike
Researching the Magic!
Lmao...
So...
SEC Championship is Florida Alabama..
ACC Championship is ND Clemson
And the tournament they want to broadcast are the same goddamned teams?
It would be absolute insanity, but I'm certain they would structure it as Florida vs. Clemson, and Bama vs. ND...which would wind up as Bama vs. Clemson Part 4 or 5...at least the semis would get ratings?
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