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BuckBuckTN said:
I never said the SEC was loaded but there ARE consistent contenders that aren't named Bama.

And in the B1G? There's tOSU...... and......

Never said that. I said the CONFERENCE is a one team conference consistently like the ACC.

The B1G needs to be stronger, yes like the SEC, so that there's a REAL challenge to tOSU for the conference win. Right now...... nobody is going to worry Clemson in the ACC and nobody is going to worry us in the B1G. Can we say the same about the SEC?

Could GA or LSU beat Bama? I'd say those are close games. Is WI going to beat us? Very unlikely.

I think the rest of the B1G does tOSU no favors when it comes to getting in the CFB but there's 2 or 3 teams that have been contenders in recent years that give a one loss Bama an edge to get over a one loss tOSU.
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Why do you consistently use dumbass arguments like this? LSU hasn't come within 10 points of beating Alabama since 2015, hasn't beaten Alabama since 2011, and I'd bet money they don't come within 10 points of beating them this year. That's not fucking close. Georgia's probably come to closest but again, they haven't beat Alabama since 2008. An entire decade. And the majority of those losses have been blowouts. Wisconsin has come much, much closer to beating OSU with their lone blowout loss come in 2014. And OSU hasn't had consistent contenders? Like Penn State didn't beat them in 2016, didn't come close to beating them in 2017, 2018, and 2014?

Seriously, put the SEC pipe down for a minute.

Edit: Another thing. I'd bet my life savings Wisconsin beats both LSU and Georgia on a neutral field. Wisconsin could just play keep away with LSU, and the Georgia that showed up against South Carolina would've gotten pummeled against the Badgers.
 
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So LSU beat two decent teams. What were the lines in those games? Vs Texas: -6.5, win by 7. Vs Florida: -13.5, win by 14. So they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Meeting expectations, but not exceeding. In fact, since week 1, they have been right at the spread around the spread every week. So what is so impressive about these wins again?
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
So LSU beat two decent teams. What were the lines in those games? Vs Texas: -6.5, win by 7. Vs Florida: -13.5, win by 14. So they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Meeting expectations, but not exceeding. In fact, since week 1, they have been right at the spread around the spread every week. So what is so impressive about these wins again?
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I enjoy poking holes in the SEC! SEC! crowd’s perceived superiority arguments as much as anyone on BP. But, using team results vs a betting line? Is it LSU’s fault that Vegas correctly sets the spread? Isn’t it the goal of the Vegas books to have about equal total dollars bet on each team?
 
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LSU and Bama are both very "meh" on defense this year from where theyve been at points in the past

Total D right now. LSU 25th. Bama 36th

Both had showed some glaring issues on that side against teams with somewhat of a pulse

Anyone who thinks they are all around impressive is kidding themselves.
 
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Zippercat said:
I enjoy poking holes in the SEC! SEC! crowd’s perceived superiority arguments as much as anyone on BP. But, using team results vs a betting line? Is it LSU’s fault that Vegas correctly sets the spread? Isn’t it the goal of the Vegas books to have about equal total dollars bet on each team?
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It is. Still, a team's performance ATS is an indicator of a team's play on the field. As I'm sure you agree, Vegas takes it's odds making seriously. If a team is always covering, never covering, etc. it says something. What? Well, that's debatable and probably fact specific. If Clemson is always failing to cover, it may be because they are playing lazy (ie OSU 2015) or they aren't as good as they are perceived to be, or... whatever else. In short, it's not the be all end all, but it is an informative data set.
 
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Zippercat said:
I enjoy poking holes in the SEC! SEC! crowd’s perceived superiority arguments as much as anyone on BP. But, using team results vs a betting line? Is it LSU’s fault that Vegas correctly sets the spread? Isn’t it the goal of the Vegas books to have about equal total dollars bet on each team?
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I admit it’s not a great metric, but i do think it is better than the “eye test“ or rankings. If the general betting population is of the opinion that LSU is two TDS better than Florida, then why does beating them by two TDs warrant a big jump in rankings? The fact the Uf as a “top 10” team was a 14 point dog suggests maybe they aren’t a top 10 team, but LSU is still being rewarded as if they were.
 
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I was watching part of yesterday's College Football show (yeah, I know), and they did a segment called floor and ceiling or something like that, where the analyst picks a random team off a board and then gives the best case and worst case scenarios for the team.

Desmond gets Washington, and says "The worst that can happen is for them not to make the playoff". Really Des, that's the worst case scenario for a team that already had 2 losses yesterday? I don't know how he remains a talking head in front of a camera.
 
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BB73 said:
Desmond gets Washington, and says "The worst that can happen is for them not to make the playoff". Really Des, that's the worst case scenario for a team that already had 2 losses yesterday? I don't know how he remains a talking head in front of a camera.
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Well, you won’t run into Desmond at a Mensa meeting.
 
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