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Do you believe there is a wide spread problem with games being fixed in the NBA?

do you believe that there is a widespread problem with NBA games being fixed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 51.3%
  • No

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Undecided/Unsure

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • If I answer David Stern will give me cement overshoes....

    Votes: 4 10.3%

  • Total voters
    39
If they really wanted to manipulate the playoffs they wouldn't have ejected Amare Staudamire from game 7 of the Spurs series last season. IMO, the Suns would have been a much better draw for the finals than the Spurs.
 
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fourteenandoh;1182075; said:
If they really wanted to manipulate the playoffs they wouldn't have ejected Amare Staudamire from game 7 of the Spurs series last season. IMO, the Suns would have been a much better draw for the finals than the Spurs.

I do think theres some underlying craftiness amongst offcials and the NBA. A team gets jobbed by a bad night, and they try and balance it out. Fixing games is way above that though. I could see NBA executives putting the screws to some officials after poorly called games, forcing them to call a game differently in the future in an indirect way. Jobs should be lost if someone directly told officials to make sure a series goes 7 or allow a team to win b/c of mistakes earlier in the series though.

Humans have a difficult time enough under that much stress, pressure, and influence of a home-court crowd. Just look at any game called in Cameron Indoor.
 
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Wade and Shaq versus the Mavs...why did they let the Heat win the series in game six, on the road? Game seven would've been huge $$$.

We've got one guy who got in debt and had to fix games to keep from getting his legs broken or worse. He throws the league and his fellow refs under the bus while awaiting sentencing on his conviction. The motivation is obvious, and so is the series he picked. That Kings-Lakers series fed the NBA conspiracy theorists at the time, so it's the perfect one to use. Otherwise, we have no real evidence.

I heard some talking heads comparing it to Conseco spilling the beans on steroids (and it turns out there was some truth to his words), but there's one big problem with that comparison: Jose wasn't motivated by trying to get a lighter sentence for the same crime he's accusing others of doing.
 
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powerlifter;1182112; said:
It's been there....Look under ever rock in any sport and there's been something thrown/cheated/ripped off for money..Bar none

Sure, people cheat in every sport. The question is whether it is widespread, or the occasional isolated event. The difference between the two is league-wide conspiracy, or not.
 
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yes

there has been some suspicious looking 4th quarter comebacks in playoff games in the past 10 or so years that just seem like they are rigged

I think David Stern is trying his best to sweep this under the rug right now.........

I wouldint say it is wide spread though, but I think it does happen
 
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In that case....I'd go with yes widespread and in every sport. There is no way of knowing the truth. It may seem negative to believe that it happens more frequantly,then most people believe,but that's just how I feel. I think it goes into boxing/mma,and just about anything competitive where money is involved....It's just something that can be swept away regardless if it happens or not..Anytime anyone opens their mouths about refs/umps they face fines...Does the media face fines if they criticize coaches? Why can't a ref be criticized,when how many refs have openly admitted at a later date that there was a blown call on their part? How about some sort of checks and balances?

If a ref does a superb job,nobody says a word about it,because that's what they get paid to do. Why should they be paid if they aren't doing their job correctly?
 
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I am not taking the word of a guy who's going to prison as anything yet, I am still open, I hope that someone who's a third party does an investigation, but really, how do you prove shit? There's like at least one foul committed on every posession, they just don't get called.
 
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OCBucksFan;1182218; said:
I am not taking the word of a guy who's going to prison as anything yet, I am still open, I hope that someone who's a third party does an investigation, but really, how do you prove shit? There's like at least one foul committed on every posession, they just don't get called.
I'm told the game in question, Lakers Kings Game 6 2002, is notorious as the worst officiated basketball game ever. I don't know myself, cause I gave up on the NBA a long long time ago.

Anyway, some guy made the point that the guy going to prison is trying to cut a deal with prosecutors regarding his sentence. That he's only going to be able to do that if he gives full cooperation, which includes providing only truthful info. I don't know if he's making it up or not, but there is surely reason to believe he's blowing the whistle, his status as a felon not withstanding.
 
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BuckNutty;1182242; said:
I think Donaghy would testify under oath that Mike Hart was 6'6" if it meant getting a lighter sentence.
Exactly ! I think he is telling stuff to get a lighter sentence. But at the same time I could believe that the ref do cheat.
 
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