Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

[cincibuck]

I find it easy to hold McQuery in contempt; that he didn't step in right then and there and physically confront Sandusky, that he didn't insist that Paterno call authorities...

But I can also have pity. In one instance, through nothing he had done, he could see his entire career come to an end. He had to have realized that once he reported to anyone what he had witnessed he would no longer be employable at Penn State. I can't imagine any other staff welcoming him either.

Next to the kids, he's the biggest loser in this mess and the person much of Penn State seems to wish punished.

 

[Gatorubet]

I find it easy to hold McQuery in contempt; that he didn't step in right then and there and physically confront Sandusky, that he didn't insist that Paterno call authorities...

But I can also have pity. In one instance, through nothing he had done, he could see his entire career come to an end. He had to have realized that once he reported to anyone what he had witnessed he would no longer be employable at Penn State. I can't imagine any other staff welcoming him either.

Next to the kids, he's the biggest loser in this mess and the person much of Penn State seems to wish punished.

There was a child abuse expert and counselor on TV yesterday, and she said that it was not uncommon for folks who witness abuse to have a sort of shut down reaction. That moms who walk in on their kids being abused do not react like you'd think - in protect mode - but sort of get overwhelmed by the event and not immediately act.

I guess we all think we know how we'd act...but that comment by an expert at least made me pause to think about it in a slightly different way.

 

[BB73]

I find it easy to hold McQuery in contempt; that he didn't step in right then and there and physically confront Sandusky, that he didn't insist that Paterno call authorities...

But I can also have pity. In one instance, through nothing he had done, he could see his entire career come to an end. He had to have realized that once he reported to anyone what he had witnessed he would no longer be employable at Penn State. I can't imagine any other staff welcoming him either.

Next to the kids, he's the biggest loser in this mess and the person much of Penn State seems to wish punished.

It's somewhat interesting that JoePa jokingly said "I haven't got a job for you" on the morning after McQueary saw Sandusky in the shower and called JoePa to inform him. That quote is from McQueary's testimony on Friday.

But by not speaking publically about the incident for several years, he managed to get and hold onto a decent job as a PSU assistant coach for many years. The possibility can be raised that those things are connected, and McQueary became an assistant coach for JoePa (and Curley and Spanier) precisely because he stayed quiet about what he saw in March, 2002.

 

[Muck]

How else is he going to show little boys how to wash his genitals?

Unfortunately I had to fix that for you.

 

[Taosman]

It's somewhat interesting that JoePa jokingly said "I haven't got a job for you" on the morning after McQueary saw Sandusky in the shower and called JoePa to inform him. That quote is from McQueary's testimony on Friday.

But by not speaking publically about the incident for several years, he managed to get and hold onto a decent job as a PSU assistant coach for many years. The possibility can be raised that those things are connected, and McQueary became an assistant coach for JoePa (and Curley and Spanier) precisely because he stayed quiet about what he saw in March, 2002.

This would not be surprising at all judged against the behavior of the higher ups, Curley and Spence and Paterno. If Curley and Spence knew, then Paterno probably knew. The stakes were huge. Hundreds of millions of dollars in donations for the university were at risk.The fall out, as we shall see, will not only effect the football team but the entire university.

 

[dav713]

Unfortunately I had to fix that for you.

Either "How else is he going to show a little boy how to wash his genitals?" or "How else is he going to show little boys how to wash their genitals?" would be OK. I went with the plural version since Sandusky has admitted to showering with multiple boys. And presumably, that was the position he used to show all of those boys how to wash their genitals.

 

[MaxBuck]

McQueary's testimony is crucial in the charges against AD Curley and VP Schultz. It will be difficult to nail them on perjury, but I believe somewhat less difficult for a jury to find them guilty of a failure to report a crime involving inappropriate contact by a man toward a young boy.

But McQueary's just a corroborating witness to a single incident in the 52 charges against Sandusky, for which there appear to be at least 8 alleged victims prepared to testify about what they will say Sandusky did to them personally.

You put your finger on an important point: whether or not Curley and Schultz are convicted of perjury has little to do with whether Sandusky is convicted of child molestation.

Sandusky's attorneys absolutely befuddle me. Their public commentary is more consistent with a bunch of guys who want to be the New American Monty Python than with a criminal defense team.

 

[Mike80]

Either "How else is he going to show a little boy how to wash his genitals?" or "How else is he going to show little boys how to wash their genitals?" would be OK. I went with the plural version since Sandusky has admitted to showering with multiple boys. And presumably, that was the position he used to show all of those boys how to wash their genitals.

The very fact we are having this conversation makes me wonder why this piece of shit is still breathing our air.....

 

[CentralMOBuck]

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. Could there be problems with McQueary's testimony? Since he sent out emails to friends/teammates saying he tried to stop the Sandusky or made sure he did?

 

[Gatorubet]

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. Could there be problems with McQueary's testimony? Since he sent out emails to friends/teammates saying he tried to stop Sandusky or made sure he did?

[Ginger] "Yeah..I told Paterno who I thought would stop it."[/Ginger]

 

[Mike80]

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. Could there be problems with McQueary's testimony? Since he sent out emails to friends/teammates saying he tried to stop the Sandusky or made sure he did?

If the prosecution were relying solely on McQ's testimony I would see it as a problem.

McQ is only the artillery registering itself for the battalion fire-for-effect that having all of the victims testifying will end up being on the defense.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. Could there be problems with McQueary's testimony? Since he sent out emails to friends/teammates saying he tried to stop the Sandusky or made sure he did?

from reading the email, i got the sense that mcqueary equated merely seeing and being seen as an attempt to stop what he thought was a molestation. i think the part of the email that needs clarification is the statement that he talked to the head of campus police and the police. based on what we know so far, mcqueary talked to only one person (schultz) who had any affiliation with the campus police. if it is discovered that he talked to someone from law enforcement beyond schultz, boom goes the dynamite.

 

[Gatorubet]

In the Curley and Schultz trial I doubt you be seeing any abused defendant testify but the alleged #2 shower victim.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

In the Curley and Schultz trial I doubt you be seeing any abused defendant testify but the alleged #2 shower victim.

how much does the testimony from the alleged #2 victim actually matter in the curley/schultz perjury case? isn't that case much more about what mcqueary thinks he saw and, more importantly, what mcqueary claims that he told them?

 

[BB73]

In the Curley and Schultz trial I doubt you be seeing any abused defendant testify but the alleged #2 shower victim.

That's a double 'alleged'.

Once on behalf of the defense that Sandusky was 'allegedly' abusing the kid identified as 'victim #2' in the grand jury's presentment.

And once on behalf of the prosecution that the young man whom Joe Amendola says he interviewed, and later gave a different version of events to the police/prosecution, is 'allegedly' the kid that was in the shower with Sandusky on that Friday night in March, 2002.

To my knowledge, the identity of victim #2 hasn't been confirmed, although Amendola says he talked to a guy that said he was victim #2. Hell, it's possible that Amendola talked to one guy claiming to be victim #2 and the prosecutors have talked to somebody else also saying he's victim #2.