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Destination jobs: SI's top 12 Coaching gigs

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IronBuckI;1416800; said:
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Gatorubet;1416845; said:
which to me...
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Looks like we're translating the same circumstances differently. Florida was in the lead, and ND made it interesting based on name alone.

Whichever way you want to look at what "accepted" or "head-to-head" means. Charlie Weis got his job due to Notre Dame's "semantic disadvantage." :tongue2:
 
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IronBuckI;1416854; said:
Looks like we're translating the same circumstances differently. Florida was in the lead, and ND made it interesting based on name alone.

Whichever way you want to look at what "accepted" or "head-to-head" means. Charlie Weis got his job due to Notre Dame's "semantic disadvantage." :tongue2:
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When Charlie landed, Suth Ben was at a "seismic disadvantage".
 
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jwinslow;1416734; said:
So then you're saying fsu and da u are platinum destinations too, right? :p
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eg0nUc4FRs]YouTube - Seminole Rap[/ame]

Not after this. Not ever. :p

(Miami beat them like 31-0 in the first game :slappy: - and

have two white boy quarterbacks ever been this bad at rapping? :biggrin:)
 
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Gatorubet;1417218; said:
YouTube - Seminole Rap

Not after this. Not ever. :p

(Miami beat them like 31-0 in the first game :slappy: - and

have two white boy quarterbacks ever been this bad at rapping? :biggrin:)
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Our rival has a rich tradition there:

The Mean Team:
There's Your Karma, Ripe As Peaches: Rapping About The Measly Penny With The Michigan Wolverines
A National Sports Blog With A Northeast Bias

...these rappers are hardly thugs. All three were National Honor Society members in high school and Smith and Jordan aren?t even on football scholarships. Now I?m not saying being in the NHS is a bad thing, but it can?t be good for your street cred.
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:slappy:

Their extremely white quarterback (who was literally brought in to hold a clipboard for his career... he didn't even play during last year's horrendous QB circus), David Cone, had a fresh joint of his own, but I can't seem to track it down (a few UM blogs deleted it).

and then one of my favorite raps ever:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMIPahuaFxs]YouTube - "Michigan #1" by Brent Petway[/ame]
 
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BigWoof31;1416046; said:
Or should I just sit tight and wait for this to develop into a "our league is really alot better than their league" type threads, it's certainly off to a great start.
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So you're saying you know a thing or two about Big 10 boards?

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Gatorubet;1416695; said:
I think so. At least with recruits. Florida has the second longest streak of non losing seasons in college football (beginning in 1980. Some team I can't recall started their streak in 1977:p)

Not for your life or my life, but for the life of the current players and high school kids watching, we've always been a big dog. The only reason I think we will have staying power is the fact of the recruiting base we are blessed with. Nebraska was good forever, but they had to bring them in from elsewhere to the middle of nowhere Nebraska. Take away the Big-12 titles and shots at the MNC and they cannot get kids to go there. We will always have talent, and now we are successful enough to get the premier coaching.

No, we are not Notre Dame and I am not saying we are. But we are a new commodity that looks like it has a brand with staying power. With the basketball success, we have a little cache ourselves. Now - I am living the dream, and at the apex, with nowhere to go but down, but it has been a good ride for me.
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I know this seems unrelated, but a few years ago (2003 or so?) I remember trying to discuss with Iowa fans the fact that they were not suddenly part of a new "big three" of the big ten. They discussed recent successes and coaching a good streak, etc. They didn't get that it is very hard to be a lasting power.

Your discussion of Florida is certainly on a higher level, and with greater longevity, but the concept strikes me as similar. It may look good to you now, but you just can't tell. Certain schools will always be at the top. Others may think they are, but won't be, in the end, and it's hard to tell. There is a reason some schools looked good in 1958 and 2008, and others didn't. Similarly, there was a reason Iowa fans should have realized that some schools looked good in 1992 and 2002. . .

Although I see and merit your distinguishments of Florida from Florida State, Florida State is a shining example of what I am trying to display (as is Miami).
 
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To clarify my Florida State and Miami comments, they are both still close to being powers, but they may both fall into middling natures.

At the same time, if one or the either was to become a complete power, which may happen for either, Florida's base may become drier, and Florida may no longer be such a major player. There is no necessary lasting power in the state.

The fact is, 20 years is not a long time in this type of discussion, to me. Maybe I'm wrong. . .
 
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kinch;1417591; said:
I know this seems unrelated, but a few years ago (2003 or so?) I remember trying to discuss with Iowa fans the fact that they were not suddenly part of a new "big three" of the big ten. They discussed recent successes and coaching a good streak, etc. They didn't get that it is very hard to be a lasting power.

Your discussion of Florida is certainly on a higher level, and with greater longevity, but the concept strikes me as similar. It may look good to you now, but you just can't tell. Certain schools will always be at the top. Others may think they are, but won't be, in the end, and it's hard to tell. There is a reason some schools looked good in 1958 and 2008, and others didn't. Similarly, there was a reason Iowa fans should have realized that some schools looked good in 1992 and 2002. . .

Although I see and merit your distinguishments of Florida from Florida State, Florida State is a shining example of what I am trying to display (as is Miami).
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That is why I referenced the streak, and also facilities. As the Flagship University in Florida, with the greater alumni base, greater endowment, greater academic reputation, and better resources overall than the ones you mention, I think that we have figured out part of the formula.

I see your point. But I do feel that our BCS Bowl record and three MNCs since 1996 are at least positive indicia that we are on the right track. I know how many feel about the "only since Spurrier" thing, but he has been gone for seven seasons, and here we still are. Very soon it will be twenty years since his first year. A couple decades in a row is something that the Iowas of the world do not have. FSU had the Big East, and then the then ultra weak ACC. They do not have that now. Nor have they shown that they can continue the excellence once they change coaches.

We crossed that hurdle successfully, albeit with a Zook regime that still had us a late loss away from the SECCG. That is the consistency that you have, and that we aspire to.
 
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Gatorubet;1417605; said:
That is why I referenced the streak, and also facilities. As the Flagship University in Florida, with the greater alumni base, greater endowment, greater academic reputation, and better resources overall than the ones you mention, I think that we have figured out part of the formula.

I see your point. But I do feel that our BCS Bowl record and three MNCs since 1996 are at least positive indicia that we are on the right track. I know how many feel about the "only since Spurrier" thing, but he has been gone for seven seasons, and here we still are. Very soon it will be twenty years since his first year. A couple decades in a row is something that the Iowas of the world do not have. FSU had the Big East, and then the then ultra weak ACC. They do not have that now. Nor have they shown that they can continue the excellence once they change coaches.

We crossed that hurdle successfully, albeit with a Zook regime that still had us a late loss away from the SECCG. That is the consistency that you have, and that we aspire to.
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You make good points. And you used the word "indicia."

I can't argue with that.
 
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