bucknut502
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How many sacks does Bosa need to get to New York for the Heisman?
I’m guessing he’ll need 15 to get there
I’m guessing he’ll need 15 to get there
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No way. His Heisman odds plummeted after this weekend even after getting two sacks, recovering two fumbles, and scoring a TD.
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1926Buckeyes
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20+ to have a good chance. Just too many returning offensive stars like Love and Taylor and 5-6 new guys that will blow up this year.
Suh is the only guy I can think of who didn't also play offense or special teams and got an invite. He didn't have insane stats, but if I'm remembering correctly, his 2009 B12 title game performance had a big impact on getting the invite.
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Hugh Green's career stats. Look at his SR year. If that can't win a defensive player the Heisman, who doesn't have the tsun hype machine behind him, then it can't be done.
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bucknut502
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I think we are getting really close to seeing a defensive player win it. If a guy like Bosa has somewhere in the 16-18 range and a couple of TD’s and doesn’t win it, there will be a lot of noise.
Social media will be a big influencer. Back in the 70’s, I’m sure people were outraged that a guy with those numbers wasn’t considered. If that happened today, twitter and Facebook would blow up. Hell, didn’t Manti Te’o finish 2nd?
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Nick Bosa is not going to be a Heisman Trophy candidate, even if he should be
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“Nick Bosa, Ohio State’s Returning All-American and Big Ten Conference defensive lineman of the year, has been named the Bednarik player of the week for his dominant performance in Ohio State’s 77-31 victory over Oregon State on Saturday.”
- Ohio State Athletics
Following his two-sack, two-fumble recovery performance on Saturday, which also saw him record his first collegiate touchdown, there has been talk around Buckeye Nation that Ohio State defensive end Nick Bosa should be an unlikely Heisman Trophy candidate.
Despite that fervor, the most recently released odds actually saw the defender’s chance at winning the most important individual honor in college sports decline significantly, from 125-to-1 down to 200-to-1. However, the Maxwell Football Club saw the projected first-round draft pick in a different light, as they selected him as Week 1’s Bednarik player of the week, given to college football’s best defensive player.
Come year’s end, the younger Bosa brother very well might be the best defender in college football for the entire season, but it’s almost impossible to imagine a world in which he would be considered for the Heisman Trophy; not because he doesn’t deserve it, but he’s likely just not going to get the opportunities to wrack up the gaudy stats that a defensive player would need for consideration.
First, Bosa only played regularly in the first half against Oregon State, and while the Beavers will likely be one of the worst opponents Ohio State faces all year, the Buckeye coaching staff is not shy about pulling starters on both sides of the ball when a game is out of reach; we saw it in nearly every game that didn’t come down to the wire in 2017.
Second, though it probably doesn’t have the depth of experience that it has in the last few years, the Ohio State defensive line is insanely talented. When you think about the fact that Bosa is starting on a line that also includes Dre’Mont Jones, Chase Young or Jonathan Cooper, and “Big Bob” Robert Landers, that is terrifying for opposing offenses. But, when you start considering that freshmen like Tommy Togiai, Tyreke Smith, Tyler Friday, and Taron Vincent are waiting in the wings, along with backups Davon Hamilton, Haskell Garrett, and Jashon Cornell, it is difficult to imagine there being enough snaps for all of the players to have the impact that they would on lesser lines.
Finally, think back to 2015. Nick’s older brother, Joey Bosa, saw significant declines in his sack (13.5 in 2014 to 5 in 2015) and tackles for loss totals (21.5 to 16) from the previously year. Now, friends, I’m here to tell you that this is not because everyone’s favorite shrugging Buckeye all of a sudden got worse at football following the National Championship. No, it is because he was routinely double and triple-teamed, minimizing the direct impact that you could have on busting up plays, but opening up opportunities for linemates like Tyquan Lewis.
Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2018/9/5/17824302/ohio-state-news-nick-bosa-heisman-trophy
“Nick Bosa, Ohio State’s Returning All-American and Big Ten Conference defensive lineman of the year, has been named the Bednarik player of the week for his dominant performance in Ohio State’s 77-31 victory over Oregon State on Saturday.”
- Ohio State Athletics
Following his two-sack, two-fumble recovery performance on Saturday, which also saw him record his first collegiate touchdown, there has been talk around Buckeye Nation that Ohio State defensive end Nick Bosa should be an unlikely Heisman Trophy candidate.
Despite that fervor, the most recently released odds actually saw the defender’s chance at winning the most important individual honor in college sports decline significantly, from 125-to-1 down to 200-to-1. However, the Maxwell Football Club saw the projected first-round draft pick in a different light, as they selected him as Week 1’s Bednarik player of the week, given to college football’s best defensive player.
Come year’s end, the younger Bosa brother very well might be the best defender in college football for the entire season, but it’s almost impossible to imagine a world in which he would be considered for the Heisman Trophy; not because he doesn’t deserve it, but he’s likely just not going to get the opportunities to wrack up the gaudy stats that a defensive player would need for consideration.
First, Bosa only played regularly in the first half against Oregon State, and while the Beavers will likely be one of the worst opponents Ohio State faces all year, the Buckeye coaching staff is not shy about pulling starters on both sides of the ball when a game is out of reach; we saw it in nearly every game that didn’t come down to the wire in 2017.
Second, though it probably doesn’t have the depth of experience that it has in the last few years, the Ohio State defensive line is insanely talented. When you think about the fact that Bosa is starting on a line that also includes Dre’Mont Jones, Chase Young or Jonathan Cooper, and “Big Bob” Robert Landers, that is terrifying for opposing offenses. But, when you start considering that freshmen like Tommy Togiai, Tyreke Smith, Tyler Friday, and Taron Vincent are waiting in the wings, along with backups Davon Hamilton, Haskell Garrett, and Jashon Cornell, it is difficult to imagine there being enough snaps for all of the players to have the impact that they would on lesser lines.
Finally, think back to 2015. Nick’s older brother, Joey Bosa, saw significant declines in his sack (13.5 in 2014 to 5 in 2015) and tackles for loss totals (21.5 to 16) from the previously year. Now, friends, I’m here to tell you that this is not because everyone’s favorite shrugging Buckeye all of a sudden got worse at football following the National Championship. No, it is because he was routinely double and triple-teamed, minimizing the direct impact that you could have on busting up plays, but opening up opportunities for linemates like Tyquan Lewis.
Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2018/9/5/17824302/ohio-state-news-nick-bosa-heisman-trophy
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ScriptOhio
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RUTGERS TACKLE TARIQ COLE HASN'T ALLOWED A SACK AGAINST NICK BOSA, AND AIMS TO KEEP IT THAT WAY
Nick Bosa is almost unanimously considered the best pass rusher in college football and is an absolute lock to be a top-five pick in the upcoming NFL Draft, assuming he decides to declare.
But Rutgers offensive tackle Tariq Cole, an NFL Draft prospect himself, isn't backing down from the challenge of blocking Bosa this weekend. In an article on Bleacher Report earlier this year, he reminded everyone that the elite pass rusher has yet to register a sack against him, and he aims to keep it that way.
From BleacherReport.com:
"When you watch him, you can tell he's at a different level," says Rutgers tackle Tariq Cole. "His stance, start, get-off, hand placement. He does a great job at that stuff. But the thing I respect the most about him is he's not only technically sound, but you get the same effort from him every play."
Cole says he wishes he'd had a chance to play against Joey Bosa because he's heard he's the same type of player. "All I know is Nick hasn't gotten a sack off me," says Cole, whose Scarlet Knights visit Ohio State on Sept. 8. "It's up to me to keep it that way."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...gainst-nick-bosa-and-aims-to-keep-it-that-way
Nick Bosa is almost unanimously considered the best pass rusher in college football and is an absolute lock to be a top-five pick in the upcoming NFL Draft, assuming he decides to declare.
But Rutgers offensive tackle Tariq Cole, an NFL Draft prospect himself, isn't backing down from the challenge of blocking Bosa this weekend. In an article on Bleacher Report earlier this year, he reminded everyone that the elite pass rusher has yet to register a sack against him, and he aims to keep it that way.
From BleacherReport.com:
"When you watch him, you can tell he's at a different level," says Rutgers tackle Tariq Cole. "His stance, start, get-off, hand placement. He does a great job at that stuff. But the thing I respect the most about him is he's not only technically sound, but you get the same effort from him every play."
Cole says he wishes he'd had a chance to play against Joey Bosa because he's heard he's the same type of player. "All I know is Nick hasn't gotten a sack off me," says Cole, whose Scarlet Knights visit Ohio State on Sept. 8. "It's up to me to keep it that way."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...gainst-nick-bosa-and-aims-to-keep-it-that-way
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