Who beats out Nick? Joey will be gone and Nick's high school coach says Nick is better than Joey.
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buddyguy
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Nick isn't as long as Joey and he's played inside a lot at STA.
Nick is also heavier at the same point in his career as Adolphus Washington was. And he's at least as big as Cornell, who many here assume will be moving to DT. Nick is already 265 and he hasn't started his senior year of high school yet.
Larry Johnson likes DTs who can move. I think Nick gets a long look there given the lack of talent in the pipeline (as opposed to DE, where OSU has some guys they feel good about).
And if all that isn't enough, there's the comments from Terrell Hall who has said OSU is looking at Nick at DT. We'll see how it plays out.
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I agree with buddyguy, Nick is probably getting a lot more looks at DT than people want to believe.
The quote from Terrell Hall:
The quote from Terrell Hall:
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Nick must have recently put on some serious LBs, all reports I saw had him around 240ish. And I had not saw the comments from Hall, that is interesting...although I wonder if Hall was told that so they can say there are only two DEs in this class with Hall and Cooper. Just from Nick's film, I see an incredibly quick edge player with the ability to bull rush. He plays with some leverage and I could see him sliding down on obvious passing downs perhaps, but I just see Nick being much more dominant from the edge than inside. Just my take though, Nick could probably dominate as a defensive back if he wanted to. And if we can get all of Bosa, Barrow, Hall, and Cooper on the field at the same time in the future, you will never hear any complaints from me.
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ESPN has him at 6'3", 250 and Rivals has him at 6'4", 255. Joey is listed at 6'6", 275. But in photos of them together it looks like Nick is as tall as Joey.
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ESPN has him at 6'3", 250 and Rivals has him at 6'4", 255. Joey is listed at 6'6", 275. But in photos of them together it looks like Nick is as tall as Joey.
Ok, I edited the first post to update his measurables with that approximation. He definitely looks taller recently and 6'4 seems about right, but I am not sure he looks 250...looks closer to 230ish to me. In any event, thanks for the updated info.
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IMO there is no way Nick Bosa moves inside.. it doesn't fit him style-wise or physically
Futuristically, I see him in the NFL as the perfect hybrid DE/LB or upright in a 3-4
so I see his college career in a similar vein...
Futuristically, I see him in the NFL as the perfect hybrid DE/LB or upright in a 3-4
so I see his college career in a similar vein...
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Who beats out Nick? Joey will be gone and Nick's high school coach says Nick is better than Joey.
The guy who beats out Nick is a guy who's already on the roster, I'm not sure who, but it's hard to believe a true frosh from Day 1 will start over players already in the system, and comfortable with the speed of the college game. That's great a HS coach has a quote about him, but he's a HS coach, college and high school are worlds apart. There's no problem with him being in the 2 deep as a frosh. But expecting a day 1 starter is a lot to ask for a D lineman who doesn't even yet have to use much advanced technique in HS, or even been part of a famous Coach Mick training session. No matter how much big bro can try and prepare him, it's not the same
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Bill Lucas
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His brother started 10 of 14 games his freshman season so I don't get where you think it's so far fetched that he can come in and be a starter. It seems quite reasonable to me given his pedigree.
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Crump's brother
Moxahala Park Carnie/ Rehoboth Strangler
I tend to agree with this... he will probably come in as a situational player, but I could see him starting by season's end.
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There's always exceptions. Great for Joey, last I checked they're two different people. Many factors can go against true frosh coming in and starting. Pedigree means nothing, none of us know how hard he'll work when he comes on campus, or how fast he'll grasp the system, injuries, getting technique(hell no longer be playing HS OL). I'm just saying many many 5stars have come to college and had a rude awakening in their first year. I think Nick will play in the rotation, and maybe start by seasons end, MAYBE, I tend to place little faith in true frosh, no matter how highly rated they are or who their family is. I'll sit back and pleasently surprised if I'm wrong
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His brother (and Adolphus and Spence and Marcus) walked into a dreadful depth chart.
Bosa has the talent to play early but is he a sure bet to surpass all but one of Lewis, Hubbard, Holmes, Slade, Cornell, Hall and Cooper? No.
Meanwhile the DT position is frighteningly thin. Washington, Hale, Schutt will be gone. Hill has yet to produce. Munger may put it together (though he'll be a draft commodity if he does). Sprinkle is a journeyman. Thompson is often injured. Hamilton is a project. Landers is raw. I'm not sure I'd bet on Barrow ahead of Nick Bosa after another 14 months of physical growth.
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None of whom have done jack squat. Only Lewis and Holmes have any appreciable PT at all. Keep in mind that not only did Joey start most of the games his freshman year, he was a Freshman All-American and a force from mid-season onward. The amount of time Bosa spends on the field speaks volumes about not only about his rare talent but what we have below him on the depth chart. Not saying our DE depth or talent aside from Joey is bad, but we don't have any other world-class DEs on the roster right now other than Big Bear.
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Last we all checked, Nick hasn't done jack squat in college either, lol! At least Lewis and Holmes have actually played in college games and been apart of off season college training programs. Yet again, Joey has literally nothing to do with his brother, his accomplishments are his own, not his brothers. Our DEs were considered a strength last year as well as this years, and it starts with Bosa, but also the depth is a big reason. It wouldn't be surprising to see Bosa in the 2 deep, but a lot shouldn't be expected of a true frosh, no matter his ratings. Our DE depth is unproven, but there's still a lot of talent, Holmes, Hubbard and Lewis can be very good, don't get wrapped up in what a kids brother has done and expect the same.
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No one has compared them to being better than Joey, as his high school coach has. lol. Nor were Lewis and Homes the #1/#2 player in the entire country in high school as is Nick. Nor did they have the measurements or bloodline. Neither playing time nor training programs automatically translate into success.
And those directly involved with both disagree. I'll take their word over yours.
I'm getting wrapped up in what Nick has accomplished in his high school career and what his coaches (even virtually everyone else involved) have said. Plain and simple.
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