I read that ,lvbuckeye;624802; said:
But also that they are bringing other safeties up/along to play. So maybe they are less satisfied than more. I hope he gets better.
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But also that they are bringing other safeties up/along to play. So maybe they are less satisfied than more. I hope he gets better.
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I think the comment about bringing other guys "up" to get some reps at saftey is as much to have a back up who can step in and play if need be as anything. Anderson was the Starter and Jamario was the primary back-up (two deep). Mitchel is the starter and Nick Patterson the two deep.
If Jamario goes out with an injury all of a sudden, they need someone who has game experience to be able to step in. Otherwise they'll be shuffling players who would be playing 'out of position', or playing really 'green' kids (since Anderson and Jamario are sophomores themselves) in games that could be for Conferance Title and/or a BCS Bowl birth. Jamario knows he needs to improve...the coaches know he needs to improve, but he wouldn't be in there if he wasn't capable. Heck, that's all you hear out of Troy, Gonzo, Little Animal..."We just want to get better each game", individually and as a team. It seems to be the 'Company Motto' this Season (even a bit more than in the past).
Getting other kids reps at safety is just smart coaching, not only to push Jamario (as is happening at just about every other position on the team...maybe not QB
), but also to keep the 'fresh defenders philosophy' the coaches are utilizing alot this year, and to make sure we have a capable back up in place should another injury occur.
If Jamario goes out with an injury all of a sudden, they need someone who has game experience to be able to step in. Otherwise they'll be shuffling players who would be playing 'out of position', or playing really 'green' kids (since Anderson and Jamario are sophomores themselves) in games that could be for Conferance Title and/or a BCS Bowl birth. Jamario knows he needs to improve...the coaches know he needs to improve, but he wouldn't be in there if he wasn't capable. Heck, that's all you hear out of Troy, Gonzo, Little Animal..."We just want to get better each game", individually and as a team. It seems to be the 'Company Motto' this Season (even a bit more than in the past).
Getting other kids reps at safety is just smart coaching, not only to push Jamario (as is happening at just about every other position on the team...maybe not QB
), but also to keep the 'fresh defenders philosophy' the coaches are utilizing alot this year, and to make sure we have a capable back up in place should another injury occur.
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Padraig;624886; said:I think the comment about bringing other guys "up" to get some reps at saftey is as much to have a back up who can step in and play if need be as anything.
(since Anderson and Jamario are sophomores themselves)
Getting other kids reps at safety is just smart coaching, not only to push Jamario (as is happening at just about every other position on the team...maybe not QB
I agree with your comments on the coaches preparing the backups. A-Russ is actually a redshirt freshman, though.
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crazybuckfan40
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Seems to be more discussion here so I figured I would bring this over here:
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O'Neal gets another start
JASON LLOYD, Morning Journal Writer
10/04/2006
http://www.zwire.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=1699&dept_id=46370&newsid=17280595
COLUMBUS -- Jamario O'Neal has had trouble holding onto his position since entering Ohio State. Now comes his biggest opportunity yet.
O'Neal is the Buckeyes' new free safety after Anderson Russell was lost for the year after tearing his ACL on a kickoff that went for a touchback Saturday against Iowa. O'Neal, a highly recruited sophomore, started last year as the nickel back, but was quickly replaced by Malcolm Jenkins.
Before the start of this year, O'Neal was listed as a starter at safety, but again couldn't hold the job and was replaced by Brandon Mitchell and Nick Patterson. Russell eventually replaced Patterson, now O'Neal replaces Russell.
It is the first significant loss Ohio State has suffered this year.
''(O'Neal) played a lot as a true freshman, which is unusual at a place like ours,'' coach Jim Tressel said. ''He didn't grade out a winning (performance) this past weekend, but didn't grade out poorly at all. So he'll just keep getting better. The more you play, the better you get ... Now Jamario gets a lot more opportunity.''
O'Neal gets another start
JASON LLOYD, Morning Journal Writer
10/04/2006
http://www.zwire.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=1699&dept_id=46370&newsid=17280595
COLUMBUS -- Jamario O'Neal has had trouble holding onto his position since entering Ohio State. Now comes his biggest opportunity yet.
O'Neal is the Buckeyes' new free safety after Anderson Russell was lost for the year after tearing his ACL on a kickoff that went for a touchback Saturday against Iowa. O'Neal, a highly recruited sophomore, started last year as the nickel back, but was quickly replaced by Malcolm Jenkins.
Before the start of this year, O'Neal was listed as a starter at safety, but again couldn't hold the job and was replaced by Brandon Mitchell and Nick Patterson. Russell eventually replaced Patterson, now O'Neal replaces Russell.
It is the first significant loss Ohio State has suffered this year.
''(O'Neal) played a lot as a true freshman, which is unusual at a place like ours,'' coach Jim Tressel said. ''He didn't grade out a winning (performance) this past weekend, but didn't grade out poorly at all. So he'll just keep getting better. The more you play, the better you get ... Now Jamario gets a lot more opportunity.''
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
I'm really pulling for Jamo to have a big game on Saturday. He just doesn't have the swagger, and when a kid of his ability realizes that he can play with these guys......he takes it to another level. I've got a feeling that we'll see O'Neal grow up ten fold over the next few weeks, and by Michigan he will be one of the better defenders on the team. He's got the potential, he's just got to build up his confidence and realize that he does have "it".
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Jamario O'Neal to make 1st start
By Jon Spencer
News Journal
COLUMBUS -- Sophomore Jamario O'Neal will become the first area athlete to start for Ohio State in 17 years when he lines up at free safety against Bowling Green on Saturday.
The former Mans-field Senior star played most of Saturday's 38-17 win at Iowa after starter Anderson Russell suffered a season-ending knee injury.
The last local player to start for the Buckeyes was tight end Jim Palmer of Loudonville in 1988 and '89. Ontario's Larry Kotterman started on the offensive line in the mid-1980s and Ashland's Dave Crecelius on the defensive line in the early part of that decade.
"(O'Neal) played a lot as a true freshman, which is unusual at a place like ours, and he fought it out with a veteran guy, Brandon Mitchell, in the preseason," coach Jim Tressel said. "He didn't grade out a winning performance (against Iowa), but he didn't grade out poorly at all. So he'll just keep getting better."O'Neal became one of the earliest commitments in OSU history when he announced he would be playing for the Buckeyes after his sophomore season at Mansfield Senior. He transferred to Cleveland Glenville for his last two prep seasons and was considered one of the top cornerbacks in the nation when he arrived at Ohio State.
He was moved to safety by the Buckeyes and played mostly on special teams last year as a freshman. This year he was listed No. 1 at strong safety, but lost the job in preseason camp to Mitchell, who ranks second on the team with 30 tackles.
"Jamario just has to play his game," Mitchell said. "When I was a freshman, I battled Nate (Salley) and Tyler (Everett) for playing time and was always looking over my shoulder. Jamario just needs to calm down and play his game. He's a great athlete."
Jamario O'Neal to make 1st start
By Jon Spencer
News Journal
COLUMBUS -- Sophomore Jamario O'Neal will become the first area athlete to start for Ohio State in 17 years when he lines up at free safety against Bowling Green on Saturday.
The former Mans-field Senior star played most of Saturday's 38-17 win at Iowa after starter Anderson Russell suffered a season-ending knee injury.
The last local player to start for the Buckeyes was tight end Jim Palmer of Loudonville in 1988 and '89. Ontario's Larry Kotterman started on the offensive line in the mid-1980s and Ashland's Dave Crecelius on the defensive line in the early part of that decade.
"(O'Neal) played a lot as a true freshman, which is unusual at a place like ours, and he fought it out with a veteran guy, Brandon Mitchell, in the preseason," coach Jim Tressel said. "He didn't grade out a winning performance (against Iowa), but he didn't grade out poorly at all. So he'll just keep getting better."O'Neal became one of the earliest commitments in OSU history when he announced he would be playing for the Buckeyes after his sophomore season at Mansfield Senior. He transferred to Cleveland Glenville for his last two prep seasons and was considered one of the top cornerbacks in the nation when he arrived at Ohio State.
He was moved to safety by the Buckeyes and played mostly on special teams last year as a freshman. This year he was listed No. 1 at strong safety, but lost the job in preseason camp to Mitchell, who ranks second on the team with 30 tackles.
"Jamario just has to play his game," Mitchell said. "When I was a freshman, I battled Nate (Salley) and Tyler (Everett) for playing time and was always looking over my shoulder. Jamario just needs to calm down and play his game. He's a great athlete."
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O'Neal progressing:
Haynes evaluated the play of sophomore safety Jamario O'Neal, who started for the first time last week in place of Anderson Russell, who suffered a season-ending knee injury against Iowa. He said O'Neal needs to improve most in the mental side of the game.
"I think that comes with reps," Haynes said. "He may make some mental mistakes just because it's something he hasn't seen. The more he sees, the better feel he'll get for it."
Is the talent there?
"It's awesome," Haynes said. "The kid's got it all."
O'Neal progressing:
Haynes evaluated the play of sophomore safety Jamario O'Neal, who started for the first time last week in place of Anderson Russell, who suffered a season-ending knee injury against Iowa. He said O'Neal needs to improve most in the mental side of the game.
"I think that comes with reps," Haynes said. "He may make some mental mistakes just because it's something he hasn't seen. The more he sees, the better feel he'll get for it."
Is the talent there?
"It's awesome," Haynes said. "The kid's got it all."
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craigblitz
Juice, Full of Juice!!
Oversimplification here but a D leader needs to lock him in the film room for a while. It is great to have Haynes talk him up to maybe help with his confidence.
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MSU Offense Will Test Buckeye Safety
By John Porentas
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paul Haynes [/FONT]
OSU defensive backs coach Paul Haynes really is in the thick of things this week.
Haynes is OSU's second-year defensive backfield coach whose responsibilities are essentially the safety positions. He came to OSU from none other than the Michigan State Spartans, this week's opponent.
The Buckeyes will enter the game without the services of starting safety Anderson Russell who was lost for the season with a knee injury in the Penn State game. That has thrust sophomore Jamario O'Neal into the lineup, and according to Haynes, O'Neal will be facing a potent offense this Saturday.
"To me, this is the best offense that we've faced all year to this point. They are unbelievable. They have great talent, their receivers are unbelievable," said Haynes.
Add in quarterback standout Drew Stanton and a potent running game, and you can see why Haynes is impressed. What also impresses him is MSU's ability to beat you deep.
"I think he's the best quarterback that we've faced and I think these are the best receivers that we've faced. They have big play ability, so it's going to be a challenge, a huge challenge for us," said Haynes.
"You look at their losses and it's one or two plays, and it's a win. The talent is there and the pieces are there, it's just a matter of putting it together. Putting it together can come from one or two plays. Back when I was there we lost to Ohio State, we lost to Michigan and Wisconsin came in ranked fourth in the country and we beat them 49-14. They can get it together at any time because the weapons and the pieces are there," Haynes said.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jamario O'Neal [/FONT]
And that's where O'Neal comes in. As a safety, he is the last line of defense against those big plays, but he also has to be active in OSU run defense against the Spartans as well. It will be a challenge for O'Neal, but Haynes says O'Neal is working hard toward being up to the challenge.
"I think he's improving, he's getting better," said Haynes.
"Jamario is the type of guy who has to get a lot of reps. I think last week (vs. Bowling Green) and the week before(vs. Penn State) has helped him, so the more reps he can continue to get I think he'll get a lot better," Haynes said.
O'Neal is a physically gifted athlete, but the fact remains that he was not the first option at safety when the season began. According to Haynes, it wasn't so much that O'Neal couldn't do the job. It was more that Russell was simply standing out.
"Flying around, making plays, production, the bottom line is production, and that's kind of what he did a lot of," said Haynes describing the qualities that Russell exhibited to win the starting job. "He flashed. He flashed to everybody in making plays. When you play with confidence and you know exactly what you're doing you can fly around and make plays," Haynes said.
According to Haynes, the experience that O'Neal has been getting in the last couple of weeks has helped him toward being that kind of player as well.
"The thing about Jamario is that he's a smart kid, and he knows he's made some mistakes," said Haynes.
"Really a lot of the mental part (that has hampered O'Neal), and I think that comes again with reps. You see a lot of things that he may make some mental mistakes just because it's something that he hasn't seen. The more he sees it, the more he gets a feel for it, the better off he'll be," Haynes said.
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MSU Offense Will Test Buckeye Safety
By John Porentas
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paul Haynes [/FONT]
Haynes is OSU's second-year defensive backfield coach whose responsibilities are essentially the safety positions. He came to OSU from none other than the Michigan State Spartans, this week's opponent.
The Buckeyes will enter the game without the services of starting safety Anderson Russell who was lost for the season with a knee injury in the Penn State game. That has thrust sophomore Jamario O'Neal into the lineup, and according to Haynes, O'Neal will be facing a potent offense this Saturday.
"To me, this is the best offense that we've faced all year to this point. They are unbelievable. They have great talent, their receivers are unbelievable," said Haynes.
Add in quarterback standout Drew Stanton and a potent running game, and you can see why Haynes is impressed. What also impresses him is MSU's ability to beat you deep.
"I think he's the best quarterback that we've faced and I think these are the best receivers that we've faced. They have big play ability, so it's going to be a challenge, a huge challenge for us," said Haynes.
"You look at their losses and it's one or two plays, and it's a win. The talent is there and the pieces are there, it's just a matter of putting it together. Putting it together can come from one or two plays. Back when I was there we lost to Ohio State, we lost to Michigan and Wisconsin came in ranked fourth in the country and we beat them 49-14. They can get it together at any time because the weapons and the pieces are there," Haynes said.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jamario O'Neal [/FONT]
"I think he's improving, he's getting better," said Haynes.
"Jamario is the type of guy who has to get a lot of reps. I think last week (vs. Bowling Green) and the week before(vs. Penn State) has helped him, so the more reps he can continue to get I think he'll get a lot better," Haynes said.
O'Neal is a physically gifted athlete, but the fact remains that he was not the first option at safety when the season began. According to Haynes, it wasn't so much that O'Neal couldn't do the job. It was more that Russell was simply standing out.
"Flying around, making plays, production, the bottom line is production, and that's kind of what he did a lot of," said Haynes describing the qualities that Russell exhibited to win the starting job. "He flashed. He flashed to everybody in making plays. When you play with confidence and you know exactly what you're doing you can fly around and make plays," Haynes said.
According to Haynes, the experience that O'Neal has been getting in the last couple of weeks has helped him toward being that kind of player as well.
"The thing about Jamario is that he's a smart kid, and he knows he's made some mistakes," said Haynes.
"Really a lot of the mental part (that has hampered O'Neal), and I think that comes again with reps. You see a lot of things that he may make some mental mistakes just because it's something that he hasn't seen. The more he sees it, the more he gets a feel for it, the better off he'll be," Haynes said.
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
As I said earlier, this will all be an afterthought very soon. Jamo is going to have a breakout game in the next couple of weeks, and never look back after that. This kid is budding with potential, he's just got to get that swagger back from High School. It happens a lot with top flight talent making the transition to college ball, it'll happen with O'Neal.
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gobucks19
JT's #1 recruit
craigblitz;631497; said:
It would have been nice for ONeal to have Whitner showinig him the ropes one more year. That guy is a film room junkie and its probably why he was a top10 draft pick - he just knows what is happening before the play starts.
Hey Whitner, during your bye-week, why dont you come back and work with Jamario.
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UpNorthBuckeye
Hall of Fame
scary
I know this is the Jamo thread, but just gotta say that what Paul Haynes said about MSU is what scares me -
he talked about the year when MSU sucked against scUM, sucked against the Buckeyes, and then Wisky came in ranked 4th and MSU whupped 'em bad.
That is the schizo nature of this team. Jamo and EVERYone needs to know that there is a lot of mis-directed potential on the Sparties and they need to knock it down hard and fast. We can't have a game like last year where we're trailing 17-7 in the second quarter.
Jamario will do fine this weekend. Has he had a pick yet?? Maybe he gets his first this week!
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I know this is the Jamo thread, but just gotta say that what Paul Haynes said about MSU is what scares me -
he talked about the year when MSU sucked against scUM, sucked against the Buckeyes, and then Wisky came in ranked 4th and MSU whupped 'em bad.
That is the schizo nature of this team. Jamo and EVERYone needs to know that there is a lot of mis-directed potential on the Sparties and they need to knock it down hard and fast. We can't have a game like last year where we're trailing 17-7 in the second quarter.
Jamario will do fine this weekend. Has he had a pick yet?? Maybe he gets his first this week!
Go Bucks
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