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Dad confesses to holding daughter captive 24 years

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OCBuckWife;1198642; said:
Assuming someone is insane, and therefore incapable of rational thought or responsibility, is an easy trap to fall into about sociopaths. "It's so crazy a thing to do the person MUST be crazy!" is a fallacy that lets these people get away with way too much.
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I just read about the diagnosis of a sociopath and OMFG! It's my monster-in-law! :tongue2:
 
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The 73-year-old Austrian, who locked his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and bore her seven children, has been in custody since the self-made dungeon under his home was discovered in April.
Officials at St Poelten Prison told how the Fritzl had complained of a range of ailments, including chest pains and stomach ache.
But when he is well, Fritzl spends much of his time in his cell, scouring newspaper reports for details of his case.


He has taken out a subscription for several of the papers that he most enjoys reading to make sure he does not miss anything written about him.
One of the papers has a comprehensive television guide, which he examines every day to ensure he does not miss any shows where he is featured.
If there is nothing on television which relates to him, he will read old press reports about himself. If the weather is good, he goes for walks in the prison courtyard.
Prison spokesman Erich Huber-Guensthofer said: "To be honest other than the trips to the doctor, and the request for face creams, he gives us no trouble.
"You would hardly know that he was there. He has never complained about the food. If the weather is really nice, he takes a short walk in the prison courtyard."
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Indicative of a narcissistic personality, extraordinarily interested in anything about him or herself.
 
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The victims are getting out into the world now.

hree months after gaining their freedom, Josef Fritzl's victims are slowly being exposed to a brave new world of sunlight, storm clouds, prosecutors and paparazzi.
Investigators said Friday they have begun questioning the daughter they say Fritzl held in a cellar for 24 years, and Austrian media reported that one of the children he fathered with her spent last weekend incognito at a youth camp.

"A big step toward a normal life," the daily Kurier headlined.

Judge Andrea Humer, who will preside over Fritzl's incest-imprisonment trial, said medical experts have pronounced the victims in "relatively good health" considering their ordeal in the windowless cell police say he built beneath his home.

For the first time, prosecutors interviewed Fritzl's 42-year-old daughter, Elisabeth, in a secret location.

Friday's session was videotaped so it can be shown in court to spare her the trauma of having to testify, they said, adding that the questioning would resume next week.

In a poignant sign of the remarkable progress the family has made since Fritzl finally released his captives late in April, one of Elisabeth's daughters - a 15-year-old girl - attended a summer camp organized by firefighters last weekend, public broadcaster ORF said.

It said the girl enjoyed four carefree days of outdoor fun under an assumed name with 4,000 other young campers.

Armin Blutsch, who commands Amstetten's fire brigade, and Hans-Heinz Lenze, a local official, said camp organizers took it upon themselves to include her after she said it was her "ardent desire."

Other family members also have ventured - always in disguise - from the Amstetten-Mauer psychiatric clinic where they have been recovering to make day trips, including swimming outings, Kurier said.
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THey may have added in "slavery" to the father's charges.




2:50pm UK, Monday August 04, 2008
Austria cellar rapist Josef Fritzl - who kept his daughter imprisoned in an underground dungeon for 24 years - may face slavery charges.


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Josef Fritzl is in jail awaiting trial

Prosecutor Gerhard Sedlacek also said authorities hope to have formal charges ready by the end of September.
If convicted of slavery, he would face 20 years in prison.
Fritzl, 73, who repeatedly raped his daughter and fathered seven of her children, would then face trial in December.
Investigators say he confessed to taking Elisabeth prisoner when she was 18 and sexually abusing her.
He admitted fathering her children, one whom died shortly after birth and whose body he allegedly tossed into a furnace.
Fritzl could face murder charges - and a life sentence - if there is enough evidence to prove the infant could have survived after birth had it received proper medical care.
Police say subsequent DNA tests confirmed he is the surviving children's biological father.
Three of the youngsters lived with Fritzl and his wife in their home while the others stayed with their mum in the elaborate dungeon he created.
It was built under the couple's house in Amstetten, Austria.
Fritzl's crimes were discovered when Elisabeth's 19-year-old daughter, Kerstin - who had lived her entire life in the cellar - was rushed to hospital on April 19.
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His daughter speaks, sort of.

Elisabeth Fritzl and her six surviving children were freed at the end of April after being held captive by Elisabeth's 73-year-old father, Josef.
In a handwritten message displayed on a noticeboard in the square of their home town of Amstetten, she thanked well-wishers for their messages of support since she and her family emerged from a cramped, windowless dungeon.
The family is currently being shielded away from the media glare and is receiving psychiatric counselling in a clinic in Amstetten, 60 miles west of Vienna.
In a drawing of an open pair of hands, Elisabeth, now 42, wrote: "I wish for the recovery of my daughter Kerstin, the love of my children, the protection of my family and for people with heart and compassion."
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So do her kids.




Kerstin's 18-year-old brother, who has also never seen daylight, wrote of his delight over experiencing sun, fresh air, his family and nature.
The third child held underground since his birth, a five-year-old boy, dreamt of driving in a car, riding a sledge, of playing with other children and running in fields, reports said.
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Josef Fritzl, the Austrian who committed incest and locked up members of his family in a dungeon for years, is to face up to 3,000 rape charges at his three-day trial.


Senior legal sources have revealed that he has admitted to sleeping with his daughter Elisabeth "two or three times a week" during the 24 years he kept her locked in a basement prison.


And Fritzl, 74, could be in court as early as December, Austrian media sources said on Monday.
Last week state prosecutors announced that Fritzl's trial would be heard in private apart from opening formalities and sentencing.
They expect to officially file formal charges by the end of October.
Austrian newspaper Kurier said court officials believed it might be impossible to find enough jurors who have not already made up their minds about Fritzl's guilt.


Under Austrian law there must be eight jurors and two substitutes.
"But we are a small country. There can't be 10 people out there who don't already have strong opinions about this man and what he's done," explained one legal source.


Last week it was reported that Elisabeth Fritzl had rejected offers by Austrian authorities to give her family a new identity. She has said she will just change her surname.
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That is a lot of counts of rape, wow.
 
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Waaa, what about me...waaaaa!

The 69-year-old, who claims she knew nothing of her husband's 24-year incarceration of her daughter in a cellar under their house, says she is another of Fritzl's victims.
She brought up three of the seven children Fritzl fathered by his captive daughter Elisabeth at the couple's home in Amstetten, Austria, believing his story that Elisabeth had dumped them before joining a cult.
Elisabeth, now 42, and her mother initially had an emotional reunion and lived together at a villa in the grounds of a psychiatric clinic where she and her children are being cared for.
But according to sources, Elisabeth threw Rosemarie out of the villa because the three grandchildren she brought up still called her "mum".
They claim she is now struggling to survive on benefits of ?300 a month and has lost a considerable amount of weight since the incest was uncovered in April.
Speaking to a Swedish newspaper through her sister Christine, she said she felt let down by the authorities.
"My sister has totally lost it," she said. "She is also a victim and cannot understand that she does not get any help from anyone."
Friends of Rosemarie have said she will divorce Fritzl, 73, after his trial in the autumn.
It has emerged that the Austrian authorities are thinking of charging Fritzl with slavery in a bid to ensure he will face a longer sentence.
There were fears that the historic nature of the rape allegations would mean he could only be sentenced for incarceration, which is punished with up to ten years in prison under Austrian law.
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Finally, an interview with Josef himself!

""My mother was a strong woman, she taught me discipline""

Published Date: 09 May 2008
By Allan Hall in Berlin
Man who had seven children with captive daughter speaks out

THE twisted mind of Josef Fritzl has been laid bare in a prison interview in which he defends the 24-year imprisonment and rape of his daughter Elisabeth.

Fritzl maintains he acted out of love in imprisoning Elisabeth when she was 18 and keeping
her in his cellar dungeon, where she was tortured and raped, giving birth to seven children.

The 73-year-old, who authorised his lawyer to give his side of the story to the Austrian magazine News, will today be arraigned before magistrates ? the first step in a legal process that will determine whether he goes to jail or a psychiatric hospital for the rest of his life.

But if the interview was an attempt to win sympathy for Fritzl ? he is known as "Satan" among the other inmates of the remand jail where he is being held ? then he has deeply deluded himself.

Despite claims from neighbours in Amstetten that he was a brutal tyrant at home, he told his lawyer, Rudolf Mayer: "I always put a lot of value on good behaviour and respect, I admit that. The reason for this is I belong to an old school of thinking that just does not exist today.

"I grew up in the Nazi times, and that meant the need to be controlled and respect authority. Yet, despite that, I am not the monster that I am portrayed as in the media."

Asked how he would describe someone who kidnapped his own daughter, locked her in a cellar for 24 years and subjected her to a brutal regime and repeated rape, he said: "On the face of it, probably as a monster."
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Full ARticle here
 
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Abused Daughter's two adult children won't testify?

Old news?

The case against Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in a basement for 24 years, suffered a further blow yesterday as it emerged that some of his children have apparently refused to testify against him. He could now be facing as little as ten years in jail.
Mr Fritzl, 73, is accused of raping and incarcerating his daughter Elisabeth, 42, in a purpose-built concrete bunker in the cellar of his home in the town of Amstetten, where he fathered seven children with her. He is also charged with causing the death of his infant son, a baby called Michael, who died soon after birth. Mr Fritzl is alleged to have burnt his body in an incinerator.
Elisabeth Fritzl has finished giving evidence to the court authorities and while details of her testimony have not been made public, it is believed that she accused her father of rape and psychological torment, as well as for the death of her child, who is thought to have died three days after birth because of conditions in the cellar.
Prosecutors told The Times that Ms Fritzl?s two other adult children, who were supposed to provide key testimonies against their father and support their mother?s allegations, were likely to refuse to give evidence.
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Refusal to testify against the father that kept them underground

Confirmed!

Quoting the neonatologist?s findings, News reported: ?Josef Fritzl must have known that the child would die if he was not provided with adequate medical attention.?
The findings, which are based on the testimony of Elisabeth Fritzl, could now be used to bring manslaughter charges against her father, with a maximum life sentence if he were convicted.
News said that Ms Fritzl told the expert that her father did not react to the symptoms of their baby and ignored his breathing problems during several visits to the cellar after the baby was born.
According to News, Fritzl denied the accusations, saying that he had seen the baby for the first time only after the child had died. He was quoted as saying: ?I only found out that I was father to twins when one of the children was already dead; my daughter Elisabeth then gave me Michael?s body so I could burry it.?
The charges against Fritzl should be compiled in the next the two months and the trial is to take place by the end of the year.
So far, the only testimony against him comes from his daughter Ms Fritzl, while her children have refused to give evidence against their father.
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Good news is, they might be able to make at least a manslaughter charge stick without that testimony.
 
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Sadistic mother turned me into a rapist, claims Josef Fritzl - The Daily Record

So they recently had a psychologist give him an examination. From the linked website it a quote that just made me laugh.

"Dr Kastner said it left his personality severely deformed. He now has almost no ability to understand other people's point of view."

As if anyone thought that a guy who enslaves his own daughter for several decades, rapes her, gets her pregnant seven times, allows one infant child/grandchild to die, and incinerates the body was going to be empathetic.
 
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