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exhawg
Mirror Guy
As a former OL I liked blocking the tall DL more than the short ones. It is a lot easier to get under a tall guy. DT's are doubleteamed on almost every running play and a 6'7" DT would be easy to get under and drive back. Nevada had a DT like that back in the mid 90's and he ended up spending most of the game on his back. It is almost impossible for a 6'7" guy to play low enough to play DT. At end they aren't doubled as much so they can be taller.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
Yeah man I know Rein Long or whatever must have been a hell of a player or so at WSU, but can you name a defensive tackle before that was a standout? I sure can't. Seriously I was an O-lineman as well for a year and the taller the guy the more likely I was to get under his pads. I mean Worthington COULD end up in the middle, but he'd have to be a master at getting under his person. So again I'm not saying he couldn't play in the middle, but rather its unlikely because of his reach that he must have.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
well we have no doubt the best linebackers in the nation, and we have the tools to run a 3-4 on the defensive line. However, in college ball there's alot more running the football involved and teams are left vulnerable because of that. Thats why you see it in the NFL more commonly as a base defense because teams are passing the ball alot. I'd like to see us use it in 2nd down and long.... or 3rd and long.
In saying that the 4-3 is by far our smartest choice on defense. It allows us to stop the run, and also have very good coverage at the same time. What do I know though? As long as we win games I don't care what defense we run.
In saying that the 4-3 is by far our smartest choice on defense. It allows us to stop the run, and also have very good coverage at the same time. What do I know though? As long as we win games I don't care what defense we run.
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wdg01
Heisman
Richardson will help with the pass rush this year. He was the best D-lineman in the Spring Game IMO. He was everywhere, looks 100% improved from last year. As far as the 3-4, we wont run a true 3-4 very much. Instead we will use a Leo, either Kudla, Barrow (who seemed to have a knack for it in the spring game) or Gholston standing up and either dropping into coverage or rushing.
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jimotis4heisman
Banned
richardson had his pick in the jersey scrimage dropping back into coverage...wdg01 said:
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Washington St. has another tall DT in the Rien Long mold. For the record, though, I also see Worthington as a DE, in the mold of Mario Williams (NC St.)
DT 75 Ropati Pitoitua 6-8, 302, Soph. at Wash St.
Last year he had 24 tackles, 5 sacks, 5.5 tackles for loss ... Pitoitua turned in a fantastic freshman season starting four games and turned into a dominant pass rusher on the inside. At 6-8, he's growing more into his frame bulking up from 269 pounds to 302 over the last year making him even more of a force against the run.
DT 75 Ropati Pitoitua 6-8, 302, Soph. at Wash St.
Last year he had 24 tackles, 5 sacks, 5.5 tackles for loss ... Pitoitua turned in a fantastic freshman season starting four games and turned into a dominant pass rusher on the inside. At 6-8, he's growing more into his frame bulking up from 269 pounds to 302 over the last year making him even more of a force against the run.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
Why don't they just play 5 linemen, 5 linebackers and 5 or 6 defensive backs? that way, all of the players who are good enough to start for all the other teams in the country can get their playing time.
Seriously, though, if this is Ohio State's "problem" on defense, there really is no problem.
Seriously, though, if this is Ohio State's "problem" on defense, there really is no problem.
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slickman
keeping tan
Pass Rush
Our pass rush lacked, yes. Worthington will be sweet, yes. His videos showed him running down opposing running backs via the backfield to the opposite side of the field in his San Francisco 49er looking uniform that was cool, yes.
Point of note to the o-linemen posting in this thread with their mutual agreement (generally, as I skimmed mostly) regarding their PREFERENCE to blocking tall DLs... note: Imagine blocking a crazy ASS ALONZO SPELLMAN. I heard Warrick Dunn in an interview with somebody on the radio not too long ago on local radio here (last season) and they asked him what player scared him more than any other player in his career. The interviewer postulated that somebody else had mentioned, perhaps Eddie George, that Alonzo Spellman was the absolute scariest player they'd ever played against, and Warrick instantly agreed that he was one not to be trifled with in the least(a shame really)- but back on point- let me be one to speculate that the DLs you faced were probably not on par with any of the amazing athletes that OSU is bringing to fall camp this year so these comparisons are certainly apples to plums in this instance.
Our coaches saw a need after last season and went out and recruited to shore up that need even with redshirts waiting in the wings. We want tall, nasty, crazy, physical freaks at the corners of the line. That much is obvious.
I worry more about that little tear drop that Stocco was able to drop in over Carpenter's and Shlegal's heads on a consistent basis. I worry about us bringing pressure off the edge and flipping Basenez making our ends and safeties look silly with his stupid little pass option right, but mostly left- the game he had working with three receivers toward pressure. I pulled my hair out, especially having to listen to that son of a bitch Andre Ware call color and spew again and again that we weren't close to being the 6th best team in the country (we could've been coached up better IMO). Tressel even said as he walked on or off the field, "We're not the 6th (or 3rd or whatever it was at the time) best team in the country (this was Tressel pissed)."
More than that I worry about the absolute ineffectiveness of our team as a whole versus Iowa. I don't even know where to begin with what went wrong there. We don't seem to ever talk about that game but that should be the game that we talk about the most. Personally, it hurts because my uncle is a Hawkeye that holds 20 season tickets and holds an open invitation out to me every single time they play and even when they don't play (I never go because I'm lazy and now my wife, and more recently my son are my excuses), like when we were together Thanksgiving 2002, I have to deal with his SHIT--- He's my grandmother's brother, and I'm his favorite from our side of the family (we both love Scotch)- so I'm always nice-- but I digress.
Flipping Iowa. I want that game. I want us to tear little Tater tot to bits and pick him off a whole bunch of times (and smash him). There's no way their lines are that good next season... but jesus, we were schemed to death by them and this Beckman guy definitely delivers me a little peace of mind because I think he's the new real D- Coordinator this season who can deal with a little dirt and the eye, throw it over the shoulder type of bullshit offenses every BIG MAC, BIG 12 and Auburn team seem to be running these days.
Our pass rush lacked, yes. Worthington will be sweet, yes. His videos showed him running down opposing running backs via the backfield to the opposite side of the field in his San Francisco 49er looking uniform that was cool, yes.
Point of note to the o-linemen posting in this thread with their mutual agreement (generally, as I skimmed mostly) regarding their PREFERENCE to blocking tall DLs... note: Imagine blocking a crazy ASS ALONZO SPELLMAN. I heard Warrick Dunn in an interview with somebody on the radio not too long ago on local radio here (last season) and they asked him what player scared him more than any other player in his career. The interviewer postulated that somebody else had mentioned, perhaps Eddie George, that Alonzo Spellman was the absolute scariest player they'd ever played against, and Warrick instantly agreed that he was one not to be trifled with in the least(a shame really)- but back on point- let me be one to speculate that the DLs you faced were probably not on par with any of the amazing athletes that OSU is bringing to fall camp this year so these comparisons are certainly apples to plums in this instance.
Our coaches saw a need after last season and went out and recruited to shore up that need even with redshirts waiting in the wings. We want tall, nasty, crazy, physical freaks at the corners of the line. That much is obvious.
I worry more about that little tear drop that Stocco was able to drop in over Carpenter's and Shlegal's heads on a consistent basis. I worry about us bringing pressure off the edge and flipping Basenez making our ends and safeties look silly with his stupid little pass option right, but mostly left- the game he had working with three receivers toward pressure. I pulled my hair out, especially having to listen to that son of a bitch Andre Ware call color and spew again and again that we weren't close to being the 6th best team in the country (we could've been coached up better IMO). Tressel even said as he walked on or off the field, "We're not the 6th (or 3rd or whatever it was at the time) best team in the country (this was Tressel pissed)."
More than that I worry about the absolute ineffectiveness of our team as a whole versus Iowa. I don't even know where to begin with what went wrong there. We don't seem to ever talk about that game but that should be the game that we talk about the most. Personally, it hurts because my uncle is a Hawkeye that holds 20 season tickets and holds an open invitation out to me every single time they play and even when they don't play (I never go because I'm lazy and now my wife, and more recently my son are my excuses), like when we were together Thanksgiving 2002, I have to deal with his SHIT--- He's my grandmother's brother, and I'm his favorite from our side of the family (we both love Scotch)- so I'm always nice-- but I digress.
Flipping Iowa. I want that game. I want us to tear little Tater tot to bits and pick him off a whole bunch of times (and smash him). There's no way their lines are that good next season... but jesus, we were schemed to death by them and this Beckman guy definitely delivers me a little peace of mind because I think he's the new real D- Coordinator this season who can deal with a little dirt and the eye, throw it over the shoulder type of bullshit offenses every BIG MAC, BIG 12 and Auburn team seem to be running these days.
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