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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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Buckeneye said:
Peer reviewed studies
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are the worst thing that ever happened to science.

Michael Chrichton said:
I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.

Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.
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lvbuckeye said:
are the worst thing that ever happened to science.
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Peer reviews aren't inherently designed to produce consensus. In fact quite the opposite. Anyone double checking your work is looking for fault first and foremost.

Mr/Dr. "Chrichton"...? Which isn't how the author's named is spelled, conveniently leaves this out without even so much as mention. The idea of duplicating results is because you've experienced failure where someone previously found success.
 
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heisman said:
The resources for free money right now are astonishing. The rich are definitely going to get a lot richer when this shakes out, a
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heisman said:
No one will ever trust “science” when this is over. Hundreds of “scientists” with identical credentials writing articles in total contradiction of one another. It’s become comical.
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i haven’t trusted them since 1969. When my political science teacher told me we are entering a NEW ICE AGE.
 
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heisman said:
Sorry, that's the opposite of tremendous Ken. There are many choices that aren't so black and white. Time to get creative. We can have our cake and eat it too.
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2 months ago, maybe we could have.
But people like you are still in denial, so... here we are...

Here's how you COULD have your cake and eat it too:
1. Hard checks at every commercial airport, 100% at international. Catch it at the points of entry.
2. When you find a case, test everyone near them for the virus... 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. Kevin Bacon getting a test every day.
3. Have a competent healthcare system not dependent on voluntary surgeries to pay their bills... proactively cancel all voluntary/unnecessary/non-emergency surgeries and clear the beds.
4. Have a manufacturing base in your country to produce virus test kits and critical medical supplies in short order.
5. Have a government that's earned and maintained the populace' respect.
6. Have a population that takes Scientific advice seriously b/c it hasn't been actively undermined in Mass Media for decades.
7. Have an employment sector where everyone has reliable sick leave, and not under threat of being fired for using it.
8. Have a health insurance sector that facilitates people getting checked early, rather than punishing them and most people waiting until illness becomes an ER situation.


US scores 0/8 on that list.
Good luck.

This is the difference between Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, etc.
 
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Buckeneye said:
That's the beauty of science, it is ever evolving and self-critiquing. Peer reviewed studies, controlled studies, furthered research, etc etc. Consistently working to improve, advance, and in ways, even disprove conclusions all the time for the sake of finding answers to all that we have questions to.
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I wonder how many peer-reviewed studies were done before we recognized the Sun doesn't revolve around the Earth.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
You do realize that people were killed by the church for simply suggesting that the earth isn't the center of the universe. Of course you don't...
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You bringing the murders sanctioned by multiple churches, in order to suppress the advancement of the scientific method, which was the foundation of questioning their doctrine into this conversation.... why?

That has nothing to do with peer reviews, studies, research, anything. Please arrive at your counter point quickly, thank you.
 
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