Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

[RB07OSU]

Moderna II yesterday. It didn't kill me but it damn sure feels like it tried to.

Holy fuck.

I keep hearing this from my friends who have had it...I don't have time with work to get sick like that, and seeing the actual efficacy rates is not making me feel like it is worth it for now. Not saying I won't get it, but I wanted to wait and see how the vaccines effected everyone...glad I did.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

I asked my son who would be in the know... why the recent explosion in town of the < 30 vs very little > 30...
"Dad, the bars are open"

 

[jwinslow]

I keep hearing this from my friends who have had it...I don't have time with work to get sick like that, and seeing the actual efficacy rates is not making me feel like it is worth it for now. Not saying I won't get it, but I wanted to wait and see how the vaccines effected everyone...glad I did.

That effect is the vaccine and immune system working as intended, and is a tiny appetizer of the real thing, which some have to eat non stop for a long time.

Curious what you mean by the actual efficacy rates.

 

[Taosman]

"Wait and see."
My brother took a "wait and see" after I begged him to get a shot. He finally got his first shot and days later was exposed to someone with Covid and got very sick. Sounded like he was gonna cough up a lung but I'll bet that one shot kept him out of the hospital and may have saved his life because of multiple underlying conditions. (age, over weight, heart condition, high blood pressure.)

 

[heisman]

Curious what you mean by the actual efficacy rates.

It was clearly tested on young, healthy people. I'm guessing much closer to flu shot efficacy. Both Pfizer and Moderna stated it was 100% effective against hospitalization and death. What a laugh. Still better than doing nothing, however.

 

[jwinslow]

It was clearly tested on young, healthy people. I'm guessing much closer to flu shot efficacy. Both Pfizer and Moderna stated it was 100% effective against hospitalization and death. What a laugh. Still better than doing nothing, however.

I feel like we're in bizarro world, where those who were really worried about the virus statistics is now going to have the complete opposite reaction to similar statistics for the vaccine.

And those on the other extreme, who downplayed the statistics and disagreed with the level of caution and disruption, are now playing up this vaccine statistics.

Which is the thing we all hate when either the media or a politician engages in hyperbole about one side of the coin, but it's really hard to not be guilty of the same inconsistency (albeit as peasants who are not leading ).

And in the real world, off of twitter, there's a huge amount of us stuck somewhere in the middle, with all of our own personal and emotional responses. I tend to put a little too much stock into the medium cases and probably not enough into the complications of a vaccine, partially because I'm human and heard the covid stats mocked for a long time. But at the same time I fully understand and agree that there is an impossible and possibly reckless choice being made throughout. Choosing to wreck everything (especially mental and physical health overall) to try and curb something that is serious but that can't fully be stopped, and won't be attempted to be stopped in some ways.

For me I was very wary of the medium cases, and that's what excites me about these vaccines being rolled out, is the chance to greatly reduce the transmissibility and the medium cases and then have that hopefully divide the cases exponentially. But I'm a human being I only have a threshold for so much and some of it just comes down to there's only so much you can avoid even if you try.

With my career I'm now back and around a thousand new people every week that travel in from hundreds of miles away sometimes further and unless everybody's distancing and wearing masks, there's no way to prevent exposure. So we do the best we can but I can already feel my personal fickle self shifting now that I'm somewhat protected via vaccine. Such as how serious or consistent I wish to be in terms of mask wearing and what to do about restaurants until the vaccine or more likely the treatment can catch up with the virus.

 

[NorthCoastKid]

Got my second Pfizer shot around 4 pm yesterday. Woke up for work at 4:15 this morning feeling fine and the first few hours at the office were no problem. Got a little concerned that my immune response was lacking (I'm 30). Well, the ol' chills, mild headache and lethargy set in around 7 so I'm not too worried anymore. Gonna be a long day haha.

 

[heisman]

I feel like we're in bizarro world, where those who were really worried about the virus statistics is now going to have the complete opposite reaction to similar statistics for the vaccine.

And those on the other extreme, who downplayed the statistics and disagreed with the level of caution and disruption, are now playing up this vaccine statistics.

Which is the thing we all hate when either the media or a politician engages in hyperbole about one side of the coin, but it's really hard to not be guilty of the same inconsistency (albeit as peasants who are not leading ).

And in the real world, off of twitter, there's a huge amount of us stuck somewhere in the middle, with all of our own personal and emotional responses. I tend to put a little too much stock into the medium cases and probably not enough into the complications of a vaccine, partially because I'm human and heard the covid stats mocked for a long time. But at the same time I fully understand and agree that there is an impossible and possibly reckless choice being made throughout. Choosing to wreck everything (especially mental and physical health overall) to try and curb something that is serious but that can't fully be stopped, and won't be attempted to be stopped in some ways.

For me I was very wary of the medium cases, and that's what excites me about these vaccines being rolled out, is the chance to greatly reduce the transmissibility and the medium cases and then have that hopefully divide the cases exponentially. But I'm a human being I only have a threshold for so much and some of it just comes down to there's only so much you can avoid even if you try.

With my career I'm now back and around a thousand new people every week that travel in from hundreds of miles away sometimes further and unless everybody's distancing and wearing masks, there's no way to prevent exposure. So we do the best we can but I can already feel my personal fickle self shifting now that I'm somewhat protected via vaccine. Such as how serious or consistent I wish to be in terms of mask wearing and what to do about restaurants until the vaccine or more likely the treatment can catch up with the virus.

Like every other "flu-like" pandemic, it goes away once "everyone" is exposed. I don't fear exposure, and why should I? I had it, it sucked, and I got over it, like 99% of the population. At the same time, other people are scared shitless and I owe them the respect of getting vaccinated and wearing a mask. We can have polarizing beliefs, but if we always lean towards treating each other with respect, we can't lose.

 

[AKAK]

Moderna II yesterday. It didn't kill me but it damn sure feels like it tried to.

Holy fuck.

I didn't have a reaction to either shot.....which makes me think my immune system is garbage and I'll be dead any day now.

Pfizer II

Day 1 - mild fog, like never knowing why you walked into the next room
Overnight and next day - sharp fever, head pain, upper body pain. Like a kidney stone for my shoulders. Almost died picking up a plastic bag.
Day 3 - mostly fine. Venue where I work is damp and cold, so it's indistinguishable from the fever that lifted.

Wife symptoms were identical.

It was such a bizarre feeling, because at the surface level there was a massive war going on by my immunity system, and if you didn't think about it too much, it felt like we were in serious trouble. But it was also obvious that a foot underneath the very painful surface, my body was 100% fine.

You're probably going to die.

 

[BuckBackHome]

Had to run to Sam's Club this morning. They had someone standing inside the entrance with a big sign about no cost Covid vaccine shots available. She even asked me if I needed one. Apparently we have an oversupply issue in Akron now.

 

[Jaxbuck]

You're probably going to die.

No probably about it. Just won't be from this nonsense.

 

[AKAK]

Had to run to Sam's Club this morning. They had someone standing inside the entrance with a big sign about no cost Covid vaccine shots available. She even asked me if I needed one. Apparently we have an oversupply issue in Akron now.

Yeah, the tactics are going to need to change. The folks that were going to be proactive about getting it, have gotten it...

Now, the hard work of figuring out how to reach the many different populations that are left, and now I think its better to start changing the focus from mass vaccinations to dispersed smaller outreach. I think the #1 thing is to figure out how to make it really easy for the folks who don't have any objection but aren't motivated to make an appointment and show up somewhere (or think the don't have the time).

I would say something like, and do a lot to get the people who are apprehensive to be less apprehensive but, I mean, the people you need to do that are so bad at communicating consistently and positively, they'll probably make it worse.

 

[AKAK]

No probably about it. Just won't be from this nonsense.

We'll see about that.

 

[AKAK]

Yeah, the tactics are going to need to change. The folks that were going to be proactive about getting it, have gotten it...

Now, the hard work of figuring out how to reach the many different populations that are left, and now I think its better to start changing the focus from mass vaccinations to dispersed smaller outreach. I think the #1 thing is to figure out how to make it really easy for the folks who don't have any objection but aren't motivated to make an appointment and show up somewhere (or think the don't have the time).

I would say something like, and do a lot to get the people who are apprehensive to be less apprehensive but, I mean, the people you need to do that are so bad at communicating consistently and positively, they'll probably make it worse.

And keep in mind there are a lot of really lazy people out there.. I mean I have both doses and got my first on like the 4th day I was allowed...

But, I know this is a shock, but my wife made my first appt for me and the vax site made the 2nd... now left to my own lazy designs, I may have prioritized my schedule differently than that... there's still probably a lot of those folks out there.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Like every other "flu-like" pandemic, it goes away once "everyone" is exposed. I don't fear exposure, and why should I? I had it, it sucked, and I got over it, like 99% of the population. At the same time, other people are scared shitless and I owe them the respect of getting vaccinated and wearing a mask. We can have polarizing beliefs, but if we always lean towards treating each other with respect, we can't lose.

Preach that bolded shit, man. I'm not particularly scared of it, but my wife has asthma and that's a problem. And if you go down the list of comorbidities, my mom somehow has every fucking one. This disease would kill the shit out of her. And one of my employees has cancer and is starting chemo next week. So even though I don't worry about dying from it, I sure as fuck have people that I worry about dying from it.

So when clients pushback against our office being closed to them this year, I don't really give a fuck what they think. And when my employee asks someone to put on a mask when she goes over their return with them outside, they can put on the mask or kiss my ass. She shouldn't have to give them her health history to get them to put on a mask.

I just need to remember that of the 1,000+ people that we've dealt with over the last few months, it's been a very small handful that have been assholes about it.

Also, my wife got Moderna2 on Wednesday and was wiped the fuck out yesterday. @AKAK -- is she going to die?