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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
No I'm not gonna doubt Mili....it's just a surreal world where we get upset that someone said this day killed the most people when we've apparently had dozens more days worse than a really bad fucking day.
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There's a difference between reporting genuinely bad news and fucking deliberately misleading/lying about it. The media conveniently leaves out the fact that the reason why deaths have increased is because cases have significantly increased. Now, if they want to address the reasons why cases have increased and the validity thereof, then fine.
 
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This is what herd immunity looks like. It doesn't happen by closing everything (Sweden didn't) and making people shelter-in-place (they didn't do this either).

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lvbuckeye said:
Why are we hiding from a virus that has a 99+% survival rate? Ohio State hasn't missed a football season since 1879. Not during WW1. Not during the Spanish Flu (which was an ACTUAL pandemic.) Not during WW2. Never. Until now, when we have a virus that's so "deadly" that 2020 has the 2nd least amount of deaths per capita so far in the 21st century. NV literally has twice as many accidental deaths as covid deaths, which have an already inflated rate.
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Please tell me you aren't an OSU graduate.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
Why are we hiding from a virus that has a 99+% survival rate? Ohio State hasn't missed a football season since 1879. Not during WW1. Not during the Spanish Flu (which was an ACTUAL pandemic.) Not during WW2. Never. Until now, when we have a virus that's so "deadly" that 2020 has the 2nd least amount of deaths per capita so far in the 21st century. NV literally has twice as many accidental deaths as covid deaths, which have an already inflated rate.
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Comparing the body count in 2020 to one from a century ago ignores the obvious fact that our health care options are far better now. The real comparison is how normal death rates increased during the pandemics. When put in those terms the impact of the current pandemic becomes clear.

About 100 New Yorkers per 100,000 died of all causes every month in the four years before the Spanish flu, a figure that nearly tripled in October and November of 1918, the peak of the pandemic in the city.

This time around – with more advanced medical care and public health systems bringing fatalities down to 50 a month per 100,000 during the same March-to-May dates the previous three years – the number of deaths quadrupled.

The number of accidental deaths is as relevant as "I don't know anyone who died of Covid", as in not at all. The funny (in a sad way) thing is the desire to ignore or minimize the virus is one of the things that keeps it going.
 
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Jake said:
This is what herd immunity looks like. It doesn't happen by closing everything (Sweden didn't) and making people shelter-in-place (they didn't do this either).

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I would have been much more with this early on but the more that's come out about unkown, long term effects for survivors I just don't know anymore.

Maybe I'm being a raging bitch about it but I can tell you with 100% honesty I have no fear of death. I have thought all along that destroying the quality of life to try and avoid a certainty was the height of hubris and folly.

That said, I won't sell my life cheap. If this fucks you up for whatever days you do have left, then perhaps it is best to avoid getting it.

As is so often said, or should be said, with this disease...I just wish we knew more.
 
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Jake said:
About 100 New Yorkers per 100,000 died of all causes every month in the four years before the Spanish flu, a figure that nearly tripled in October and November of 1918, the peak of the pandemic in the city.
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So a rate 300 per 100,000, or an increase of 200 per 100,000.

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This time around – with more advanced medical care and public health systems bringing fatalities down to 50 a month per 100,000 during the same March-to-May dates the previous three years – the number of deaths quadrupled.
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Now a rate of 200 per 100,000, or an increase of 150 per 100,000.

And this is in NYC, the initial US hotbed, and a virtual petri dish, for the virus.
 
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People continue to rag on California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Arizona on COVID case rates, but looking at what's more important (death rates) for the states with the top-10 amount of cases, sorted by death rates:

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These are raw cumulative deaths rates, i.e., from day one through yesterday. Note that Cali has over three times as many cases as NJ, yet NJ's death rate is about 4.5 times higher. Florida--which is one the states the MSM has been ragging on the hardest--has the second most cases in the country yet has the lowest death rate amongst the top 10. In fact, Florida's death rate is about half of what the current nation death rate is (3.16%). Only Arizona is even within a full percentage of the national average. Georgia, which opened up months ago, had a 6.6-fold increase in daily cases from mid-June but only a 2.8-fold increase in death rates...you would expect cases increasing by 6.6 times would result in an comparable increase is deaths, but deaths increased buy less than half of what cases increased.
 
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New day, same ol' blatant deceptive fear-mongering:

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No, the US didn't break the single-day coronavirus case record for August...we had 3,000 more cases on Aug 7th, just a week ago. As far as the virus "widespread and expanding" in Georgia, 1.) what does that even mean when every single county in the state has had it for months, and 2.) regardless of it being "widespread and expanding" cases continue to decrease from a peak about three weeks ago and deaths are starting to show the related delayed decrease as of a couple days ago.
 
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"Inflammation of the vascular system and injury to the heart occur in 20% to 30% of hospitalized coronavirus patients and contribute to 40% of deaths, the association said Friday."
Dr. Mitchell Elkind, the association's president, said that the cardiac complications of Covid-19 could be "devastating" and linger after recovery.
"The AHA said research indicates coronavirus could lead to heart attacks, acute coronary syndromes, stroke, blood pressure abnormalities, clotting issues, heart muscle inflammation and fatal heartbeat irregularities."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
People continue to rag on California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Arizona on COVID case rates, but looking at what's more important (death rates) for the states with the top-10 amount of cases, sorted by death rates:

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These are raw cumulative deaths rates, i.e., from day one through yesterday. Note that Cali has over three times as many cases as NJ, yet NJ's death rate is about 4.5 times higher. Florida--which is one the states the MSM has been ragging on the hardest--has the second most cases in the country yet has the lowest death rate amongst the top 10. In fact, Florida's death rate is about half of what the current nation death rate is (3.16%). Only Arizona is even within a full percentage of the national average. Georgia, which opened up months ago, had a 6.6-fold increase in daily cases from mid-June but only a 2.8-fold increase in death rates...you would expect cases increasing by 6.6 times would result in an comparable increase is deaths, but deaths increased buy less than half of what cases increased.
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Interesting numbers. I think it’s clear that the biggest reason for the differences in ‘death rates’ is the timing of when these states got the majority of their cases. NY and NJ were hit hard in March and April, New York has been over 400,000 cases for a long time now, but just went over 430,000 a couple of days ago. FL, TX, and CA have gotten most of their cases in the last two months. The recent cases have a lower death rate because of multiple factors we’ve discussed before in this thread: better treatment with steroids/remdesivir/delayed ventilation/prone positioning, etc.; being smarter about protecting people in nursing homes and assisted living facilities; and a higher percentage of cases are among younger age groups, which have a much higher survival rate.

I suspect the death rates for NY and NJ, for only cases which were reported in the last two months, would be very similar to the rates in the other states. The rates differ primarily due to timing of the cases, rather than geographical or other factors.

What it amounts to is that we’re both saying that the virus isn’t as deadly as it was 3 to 5 months ago.
 
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