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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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This is strange as I thought for sure the EU had covid figured out. They are doing so much more than the US and are so much more innovative with their approach. So to be clear, the UK has less than a fourth of our population but almost a third the number of deaths.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/britain-boris-johnson-spain-travel-ban-coronavirus-europe-second-wave

From the article, the EU countries are taking the extraordinary approach of, wait for it...............
"Meanwhile, the Madrid regional government has tightened restrictions to curb the spread of COVID-19, requiring face masks in all public areas, limiting private gatherings to no more than 10 people, and forcing nightlife venues to close their doors at 1 a.m. — much earlier than usual in Spanish summertime."

Man I wish our leaders had thought of such Covid reducing measures as the smart people in the EU.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Was initially going to put this in the Poli forum thread, but this is too important to relegate it to there.

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I believe that the discussion of the behavior of the Social Media companies belongs in the Poli Thread. The continuation of this discussion here should focus on the content of the original video. Fortunately, there are other sources that have provided the same information that have not been taken down by the Social Media companies. Why they haven't removed these other sources of the same information is a debate that can continue on the Poli board (or not, for all I care), but here it is:

Newsweek - July 23

The piece was written by Harvey A. Risch, MD, PHD. He begins with the following: "As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly."

Hopefully Newsweek is a sufficiently non-controversial source that people will at least consider what this guy has to say. His credentials speak for themselves.

I am always on the side of science. Sometimes that means I'm in line with mainstream thought; sometimes it means exactly the opposite. If you think that the FDA, CDC, AMA and all of the other 3-letter-acronyms are always sources of good science, I have some ocean front property in Scottsdale that you have GOT to see.

I have no idea if the proposed treatment is good or bad. But lets not pretend that everyone who supports it is on the Trump bandwagon. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
I believe that the discussion of the behavior of the Social Media companies belongs in the Poli Thread. The continuation of this discussion here should focus on the content of the original video. Fortunately, there are other sources that have provided the same information that have not been taken down by the Social Media companies. Why they haven't removed these other sources of the same information is a debate that can continue on the Poli board (or not, for all I care), but here it is:

Newsweek - July 23

The piece was written by Harvey A. Risch, MD, PHD. He begins with the following: "As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly."

Hopefully Newsweek is a sufficiently non-controversial source that people will at least consider what this guy has to say. His credentials speak for themselves.

I am always on the side of science. Sometimes that means I'm in line with mainstream thought; sometimes it means exactly the opposite. If you think that the FDA, CDC, AMA and all of the other 3-letter-acronyms are always sources of good science, I have some ocean front property in Scottsdale that you have GOT to see.

I have no idea if the proposed treatment is good or bad. But lets not pretend that everyone who supports it is on the Trump bandwagon. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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The deleted video featured a black lady doctor from Houston (originally from Nigeria and had a heavy accent) who stated she treated over 350 COVID patients, using hydroxychloroquine, zinc supplements, and something else (can't remember) and lost not a single patient. Those patients included some elderly and with other "underlying conditions". And IIRC, she stated their recoveries were fairly quick.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
I believe that the discussion of the behavior of the Social Media companies belongs in the Poli Thread. The continuation of this discussion here should focus on the content of the original video. Fortunately, there are other sources that have provided the same information that have not been taken down by the Social Media companies. Why they haven't removed these other sources of the same information is a debate that can continue on the Poli board (or not, for all I care), but here it is:

Newsweek - July 23

The piece was written by Harvey A. Risch, MD, PHD. He begins with the following: "As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly."

Hopefully Newsweek is a sufficiently non-controversial source that people will at least consider what this guy has to say. His credentials speak for themselves.

I am always on the side of science. Sometimes that means I'm in line with mainstream thought; sometimes it means exactly the opposite. If you think that the FDA, CDC, AMA and all of the other 3-letter-acronyms are always sources of good science, I have some ocean front property in Scottsdale that you have GOT to see.

I have no idea if the proposed treatment is good or bad. But lets not pretend that everyone who supports it is on the Trump bandwagon. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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A detailed counterpoint to the Newsweek article from a surgeon:

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/07/24/harvey-risch-defends-hydroxychloroquine/

I am not saying he isn’t worth listening too, but one wonders why he’s basically the only one still pushing HCQ at this point
 
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Bucklion said:
A detailed counterpoint to the Newsweek article from a surgeon:
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Hmm, to whom should I listen concerning a virus? A surgeon or the professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health?

Bucklion said:
I am not saying he isn’t worth listening too, but one wonders why he’s basically the only one still pushing HCQ at this point
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He's not the only one...

 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Hmm, to whom should I listen concerning a virus? A surgeon or the professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health?


He's not the only one...

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And yet you want to listen to a doctor in a video who says having sex with demons makes you sick sharing her anecdotal evidence about HCQ. You’ll listen to who you want to listen to, as will everyone else, that’s kind of the whole point. Once things get politicized, there’s no going back. And that’s not picking on you, that’s just how it is now.
 
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