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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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WoodyWorshiper said:
Finally today was able to return to work. I'm lucky, too many go to the hospital and never return home. Maybe the best news of all, to me, was that nobody else at work got it nor did anyone else in my family that I had contact with. PLEASE be smart folks and wear those masks and wash your hands. Protect yourself and those you come into contact with. I gave up chest thumping years ago, so plain and simple, you DO NOT want to get this shit.

Peace, and stay healthy.
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The Covid 19 water has been "muddied" intentionally by some(Florida? Georgia.etc). And some people like Mili with an agenda. And that makes it prone to conspiracy theories. I am not hiding under some bed. I will continue to provide information and let the people decide it's worth/truth.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Counting "probable" cases without any positive test results is not simply "wrong results", nor "even a few percentages of errors". No one here is saying there's some "massive worldwide conspiracy", but it's pretty fucking clear that there are entities that go out of there way to count as many COVID cases and deaths as they possibly can.





https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html

That's two right off the top of my head.
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Good grief!!
 
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Hstead said:
Jack and Barbara Nicklaus both tested positive in March, both 85 years old, both had little to no symptoms. The guy I was around has had almost no symptoms other than lack of taste, his wife had a fever and some coughing, his sister had a fever, all three are over the age of 58. All three are now fine and their symptoms lasted about three days.

Most people do fine with this stuff despite what the mainstream media is rooting for.

Protect the vulnerable, end this BS of fear mongering and politicizing everything.
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Jack is "only" 80 not 85.....don't know how old Barbara is....
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Counting "probable" cases without any positive test results is not simply "wrong results", nor "even a few percentages of errors". No one here is saying there's some "massive worldwide conspiracy", but it's pretty fucking clear that there are entities that go out of there way to count as many COVID cases and deaths as they possibly can.





https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html

That's two right off the top of my head.
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I'm just going to be frank and say I don't have time to continue to parse out all of this shit after this one because 5 more of these videos will pop up and it leads to a never-ending rabbit hole to chase down and disprove and you won't accept any of it.

This video was posted in late April. Not sure when the actual statement by her was made. There are numerous other articles and statements by this doctor that talk about reviewing the death counts and trying to figure out direct causes compared to contributing causes.

Ezike said that the state is being careful to make sure to weed out deaths where the patient had COVID-19, but died in a manner completely separate from the virus, such as a gunshot wound or a motor vehicle crash.

“We will continue to work to provide, quickly and responsibly and accurately, what we are in fact seeing here in Illinois,” she said.
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If they're trying to boost death counts, why weed these out and why on earth bring any of this up?

The problem with COVID is that we are still figuring it out and don't understand the full implications of an infection, to the point of people having strokes or developing adjacent respiratory illnesses. If someone develops pneumonia due to catching COVID, and technically dies of the pneumonia, do you classify it as COVID or pneumonia? Don't know, don't care. To me, COVID is causing so many complications that I would never want to deal with it even if I have a super slim chance of dying.

I can't go through every death certificate and trace back patient history to figure out exact reasons for death, that's hard enough for doctors. My grandfather died from his cancer coming back, but at the time he was also fighting a staph infection and was taking medication to slow congestive heart failure. What killed him? Probably all 3, but the cancer is what finally pushed him over the edge. Is there a plan to boost cancer deaths to boost fundraising and scare monger about cancer? Of course not.

This shit is complicated, and skepticism is understandable at first. But at some point people need to accept that this is happening, this is incredibly serious, and energy spent trying to parse out certain deaths to argue that the death count is slightly lower is wasted. You could also argue the death rate, especially early on, was far higher than recorded due to people not understanding the symptoms and side effects. Also, comparative death rates from 2020 compared to years previous shows a disparity of ~10-20k. At best, it'd be a wash.
 
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WoodyWorshiper said:
Finally today was able to return to work. I'm lucky, too many go to the hospital and never return home. Maybe the best news of all, to me, was that nobody else at work got it nor did anyone else in my family that I had contact with. PLEASE be smart folks and wear those masks and wash your hands. Protect yourself and those you come into contact with. I gave up chest thumping years ago, so plain and simple, you DO NOT want to get this shit.

Peace, and stay healthy.
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Glad to hear you licked COVID, Dubs. We appreciate your perspective here. Good advice re: wearing a mask. It's so simple an ask, yet so many idiots see it as an assault on their 'liberty'. SMH
 
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1926Buckeyes said:
The problem with COVID is that we are still figuring it out and don't understand the full implications of an infection, to the point of people having strokes or developing adjacent respiratory illnesses. If someone develops pneumonia due to catching COVID, and technically dies of the pneumonia, do you classify it as COVID or pneumonia? Don't know, don't care. To me, COVID is causing so many complications that I would never want to deal with it even if I have a super slim chance of dying.
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Right now COVID would be listed the cause, despite pneumonia actually causing the death. Much like how a bad case of the flu could lead to pneumonia which could be fatal...guess what would be then be listed as the COD? Not the flu.

1926Buckeyes said:
I can't go through every death certificate and trace back patient history to figure out exact reasons for death, that's hard enough for doctors. My grandfather died from his cancer coming back, but at the time he was also fighting a staph infection and was taking medication to slow congestive heart failure. What killed him? Probably all 3, but the cancer is what finally pushed him over the edge. Is there a plan to boost cancer deaths to boost fundraising and scare monger about cancer? Of course not.
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No one is going back to manipulate CODs...they've simply been listing COVID as COD since April (at least) for anyone who dies and happened to have it. And your grandfather dying of caner has zero to do with COVID...last time I checked, cancer isn't contagious.

1926Buckeyes said:
This shit is complicated, and skepticism is understandable at first. But at some point people need to accept that this is happening, this is incredibly serious, and energy spent trying to parse out certain deaths to argue that the death count is slightly lower is wasted. You could also argue the death rate, especially early on, was far higher than recorded due to people not understanding the symptoms and side effects. Also, comparative death rates from 2020 compared to years previous shows a disparity of ~10-20k. At best, it'd be a wash.
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Again, no one is arguing to go back and "parse out certain deaths", just don't count shit that is COVID-caused as COVID-caused. Pretty fucking simple concept actually.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
There needs to be a thing called Phil Connors' law where any discussion of a topic on the internet eventually becomes so repetitive as to become like the movie Groundhog Day.
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Ohhhh.....can we give them the Ned Ryerson treatment?
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