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Taosman
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It will more likely just add to the data set. Different areas of the country and just the advancing state of treatment and mask wearing/Social Distancing are factors in this data. There are just a lot of variables still after only 6 months of this thing. Here is one estimate from a epidemiologist.
"In fact, if we take a reasonable range from most of the published research, it looks like COVID-19 has a fatality rate roughly 50–100 times higher than influenza.
In other words, between 1 and 10 in 100,000 people who get the flu will die, but between 500 and 1,000 in 100,000 people who get COVID-19 will pass away."
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Taosman
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There are a couple of things you may want to do right now.
Start doing a nasal irrigation morning and night to possibly cut down on the amount of virus in your nasal system. Easy to do and could prevent a full blown infection.
Start a taking an aspirin dose every day to prevent possible blood clots in your body.
Stay hydrated. Drink lots of fluids(not alcohol).
Take your temperature a couple times each day.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...-depth/treating-covid-19-at-home/art-20483273
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This is a great example that, when a news story is big enough, eventually you will find someone with "credentials" that will say literally anything about it.
According to the CDC (and assuming that the CDC is actually in control of their own web-site), the mortality rate for influenza in the US is 2.0 out of 100,000 of the entire population. They also say that on average 7% of the population gets the flu each year. These are both averages of variable numbers of course, but this guy is claiming the range is 1-10 out of 100,000 who GET the flu and the CDC averages taken together give us mortality of over 28 out of 100,000 who GET the flu. You don't have to be an epidemiologist to see that this guys claim is simply false. He can call himself an epidemiologist; he may even have proper epidemiologist credentials. He is also either a liar or someone who is ignorant of the most basic facts in his claimed field of expertise. I'm not sure which is worse.
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Yeah, and people can be confused when they hear about 'mortality rate'. Is it the percentage of the overall population that die, or the percentage of those infected, or does it change depending on who's talking about it?
Using CDC numbers over the past 9 years, roughly 28,650,000 people get the flu in the USA each year, and about 37,462 per year have died from it. So that means that 0.13% of those that get the flu will die from it, or about 1 out of every 765 people infected. And using an average population of 318,000,000 for the years from which these data were taken, that means that 1 out of every 8489 Americans have died from the flu in an average year recently.
Comparing COVID cases and death rates to the flu is something I'm not going to do in this post, since whatever numbers somebody chooses to use for COVID cases and deaths can indicate an agenda. But when looking at any comparisons, one needs to be aware of a few things:
1. Are only USA numbers being used in both instances, or are both instances using worldwide data? If one is USA and the other is worldwide when comparing flu to COVID it's apples and oranges.
2. Is the so-called 'death rate' or 'mortality rate' the percentage of deaths among 'reported' cases, 'confirmed' cases, estimated cases, or the total population? Because the number of COVID cases in the USA that somebody uses could be anything from 2.89 million cases to estimated numbers of 30+ million cases. Which number would the CDC use for its annual totals?
3. Is it a 1-year timeframe for the flu, but only x number of months for COVID?
Anybody reporting on 'mortality rates', which is obviously different from just the number of deaths, needs to be specific about which numbers they're using, as DBB was in his post.
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Great points, and it furthers a point I’ve made in the past about the “infant mortality” rate that people keep bandying about when they want to trash our healthcare system...every country calculates it completely differently, so making a top 50 list isn’t comparing apples to apples, it’s more like comparing apples to tanks to towels to...
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RCSooner1974
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Damn bro, hope you get better!
It just chaps my hide to see people out there being so stupid and inconsiderate of others. If someone were to get me or one of my family members sick, I'll find some way to make them pay.
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That's what compiling and tracking data does. The variables are the same as they were from day one.
This affects the compiling of data how?
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Taosman
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The "testing and tracking" that the Fed has done is totally inadequate. It's so frustrating that Romney had to ask for "comprehensive Covid transmission data."
U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, called on federal health officials Tuesday to provide the public with comprehensive, detailed data on how COVID-19 spreads and what areas or activities pose the greatest risk.
https://www.heraldextra.com/news/lo...cle_6f97d2eb-89bc-5934-93a7-15ca70601b71.html
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Taosman
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And the "Shit Show" continues unabated.
"The death toll is lower, but there are echoes of March as cases spike, doctors fall ill and supplies run short. Now, Texas is trying to adapt hard-won lessons while addressing a new set of challenges."https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
"The death toll is lower, but there are echoes of March as cases spike, doctors fall ill and supplies run short. Now, Texas is trying to adapt hard-won lessons while addressing a new set of challenges."https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Taosman
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Is Florida on Path to Disaster?
"Florida’s reopening schedule trailed that of the two Western states by about two weeks, and like them, Florida has seen a stunning rise in coronavirus cases, with a record 11,458 new infections reported Saturday."
https://www.theledger.com/news/20200705/covid-19-crisis-is-florida-on-path-to-disaster
"Florida’s reopening schedule trailed that of the two Western states by about two weeks, and like them, Florida has seen a stunning rise in coronavirus cases, with a record 11,458 new infections reported Saturday."
https://www.theledger.com/news/20200705/covid-19-crisis-is-florida-on-path-to-disaster
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Hstead
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Right now I have no symptoms. The person I was near was asymptomatic. That person was with his best buddy on Sunday and Monday. That friend became ill Weds and this person knew his buddy was ill Weds yet didn't self quarantine like he was supposed to. He was irresponsible and now I have to quarantine for 14 days because he tested positive. It is a long story but he should have never been in public and he did. Now I have to stay away. I am on a list at the Health department and they follow up daily. I am fairly confident I am not going to test positive since we were outdoors on a golf course, but we will wait and see. It is basically useless to get tested if you are asymptomatic like myself at any point before 14 days. If I tested negative today, I could test positive tomorrow. So people need to understand more about testing and what it actually tells you vs yelling "we need more testing".Damn bro, hope you get better!
It just chaps my hide to see people out there being so stupid and inconsiderate of others. If someone were to get me or one of my family members sick, I'll find some way to make them pay.
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As someone who has used that word recently, my usage fits definition number 1 at the posted link perfectly. If your referring to someone else’s usage, say so. If you’re trying to imply something, state it plainly.
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