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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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When was that exactly?

It's neat and very constructive that no one rational can think differently than your side. That's very fair and bodes very well for your hypothetical chances of your plan being accepted by the country as a whole.

Many here have said people will only put up with something for so long. That's an irrational, emotional response that is common to the best majority of us. It's not based on efficacy.

Your solution placates some but not all of the most defiant demographics in this thing. It still takes away freedoms, and it does not stop the spread. The most vulnerable were already secluded, your plan just ensures it spreads a lot more to the rest.

Who exactly is vulnerable? Are you quarantining every weaker person? How about the huge droves of obese Americans, which are known to be susceptible? At some point corners will be cut to appease citizens, and that will in turn infuriate other citizens who want more protection.

How long are the vulnerable quarantined? Until the vaccine is proven and takes root in 7-18 months? What about the refusal to take the vaccine, which will be substantial?

And what does this quarantine look like? Are they stuck in their homes unable to work? Who is footing those medical bills if/when they lose their jobs and thus insurance? Or are we having to socialize America to support them?

You described it as preparing for a tornado. That's a one time event, and you can track where it goes. This risk is always there, from an invisible tornado that you don't understand at all.

And as you fly by the seat of your pants, and make impossible decisions with less than enough data, you're going to have to update policies to contradict old, obsolete and potentially hazardous policies. And the minute you do this, which is the right thing to do, you further alienate the hurting, frightened, angry masses looking for someone to blame to make this something they can define and understand.

And in the end, it's all based around a choice. An inconsistent, compromise made to save some things over another. It will not be fair. It will not be broadly accepted by almost all. It will pick one bad outcome over another and expect the suffering public to be understanding and rational in the face of a crisis.

Tl;Dr.

Fauci himself has stated that continuing the lockdowns will cause more harm to public health than the virus itself.

Edit: also, it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to stop the spread. The goal was to SLOW DOWN the spread so hospitals, etc did not get overrun. The spread has been slowed for quite some time now, and the goal posts have been shifted to "stay locked down until there's a vaccine," which will DESTROY the entire world economy. Plus, a whole bunch of states are now pushing mail-in only ballots, as if going to Walmart is safe, but going to vote is not.

This has ceased to be a medical issue, if it ever was in the first place. It's all politics now.
 
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who is the vulnerable population?

75+ with comorbidity.

there is no reliable data.

This is especially true when every single person who died after testing positive was listed as dying from it, whether it was true or not, as well as every person SUSPECTED of dying from it, whether tested or not.

There is very incomplete data that requires dangerous guesswork if your motives are pure, which they never are in Washington.

I can decide what risk I'd like to take for myself (whether or not I'm truly rational or fully informed is another matter). We are poor at making judgments about how much our choices impact others.

FREEDOM IS DANGEROUS. I don't know about you, but I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
 
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How long a "lock down"? New York has shown us what can be accomplished under the most horrific circumstances. But it's all become politicized so badly that it will just cost the lives of thousands more. Who will get blamed for that?
 
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How long a "lock down"? New York has shown us what can be accomplished under the most horrific circumstances. But it's all become politicized so badly that it will just cost the lives of thousands more. Who will get blamed for that?

NY has shown us nothing more than that the city is not a good model for habitation. Walk down a Manhattan sidewalk at 10:00 PM at night in July any other year and you’d know — we didn’t need Covid-19 to tell us what we already knew. The fact that the virus has spread there as it has should be almost as surprising as the result of throwing a lit zippo into a powder keg.

What’s your next example? Detroit?
 
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Went to Home Depot this afternoon. My daughter and I were wearing masks. I’d say roughy 75% of people/workers not. No one was practicing social distancing. I moved over to let some folks come through the other way with some room and another couple blew right by us from behind. I was like dafuq people
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If you were wearing a mask, why did you need social distancing?
 
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