Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

[jwinslow]

If there truly are hundreds of folks who contacted agencies asking if they can drink disinfectant.. maybe it is time to cull the herd
And any 'journalist' who wrote about it... needs a new profession too...

stores had to pull their supply to limit access. Not just human stores either, tons of animal supply stores did the same. There's a reason all of those crazy warning signs exist about eating poison or holding the wrong end of the chainsaw.

There are many millions who have defended the interest in injecting disinfectant into the body.

The social media apologetics (found elsewhere) about the type of disinfectant or method of insertion is excruciating and illuminating. It being unspecified disinfectant instead of Lysol does nothing to lessen the danger or stupidity.

Is it technically inaccurate to define the type of disinfectant? Yes. Is it also a constant journalistic requirement to reword the president's words to make them readable? Yes.

How does one report about such ignorant rambling accurately and safely? If you report the fact-free blathering (that goes for the sunlight part too), you give it an underserved platform and credibility.

If you fact check it and call it untrue, readers tune you out as being fake and unfair.

If you don't report it, others accuse you of suppression and bias, and not just his supporters.

 

[jwinslow]

i guess "journalists" don't need to cite sources these days.

he's literally quoting the doctors by name. Which of them is lying, lv?

here is an OFFICIAL source that shits all over the WaPo bullshit.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page#download

0-18 is virtually zero risk. 18-45 death rate is .011%. 99.2% of fully investigated deaths have comorbidity.

there's a paragraph almost exactly like that in this article:

In the vast majority of younger adults, covid-19 appears to result in mild illness with the risk of more severe consequences rising with every decade of age. According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data, 0.8 percent of U.S. deaths as of Apr. 18 were in people ages 25 to 34; 2 percent among those 35 to 44; and 5.4 percent among those 45 to 54.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths-04192020-1.pdf

HALF of infected people don't even show symptoms.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.10.2000180

https://www.government.is/news/arti...ng-of-general-population-in-Iceland-underway/

https://www.repubblica.it/salute/me...4302/?ref=RHPPTP-BH-I251454518-C12-P3-S2.4-T1

google translate: Coronavirus: "50-75% of cases in Vo 'are asymptomatic."

STOP with the fearmongering BULLSHIT.

Do you have any thoughts about the article's actual topic, the rapidly evolving, initial understanding of how this virus attacks the body?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Yeah, but they didn't originate in a video game, though that 4-player coin-op arcade game was the shit. Those cabinets still go for a grip.

Arcade games were video games, but I see your point, Still, NES had a TMNT game as early as 1989.

 

[heisman]

he's literally quoting the doctors by name. Which of them is lying, lv?

Do you have any thoughts about the article's actual topic, the rapidly evolving, initial understanding of how this virus attacks the body?

As a pulmonary embolism survivor and now a Xarelto lifer, I’d suggest common sense. Did these people smoke, were they obese, were they on birth control (women), did they live sedentary lives? All very high risk factors. Were they tall? Yes, that matters too! Any blood conditions similar to the one Brent Darby had, for example? Next, how long were they lying in bed? Was the hospital observing the same anti-clotting protocol as they would another sedentary patient? Very, very doubtful. Viruses don’t cause clotting. Plain and simple. If you’re going to write an article like that, educate your reader, don’t unnecessarily scare them for clicks.

 

[jwinslow]

As a pulmonary embolism survivor and now a Xarelto lifer, I’d suggest common sense. Did these people smoke, were they obese, were they on birth control (women), did they live sedentary lives? All very high risk factors. Were they tall? Yes, that matters too! Any blood conditions similar to the one Brent Darby had, for example? Next, how long were they lying in bed? Was the hospital observing the same anti-clotting protocol as they would another sedentary patient? Very, very doubtful. Viruses don’t cause clotting. Plain and simple. If you’re going to write an article like that, educate your reader, don’t unnecessarily scare them for clicks.

Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals, which operates 14 medical centers in Philadelphia, and NYU Langone Health in New York City, found that 12 of their patients treated for large blood blockages in their brains during a three-week period had the virus. Forty percent were under 50, and they had few or no risk factors. Their paper is under review by a medical journal, said Pascal Jabbour, a neurosurgeon at Thomas Jefferson.

That's not a very useful sample size, but we're also 2 months into a 12-18 month process of discovering what this thing does.

 

[jwinslow]

There are other articles on this subject, getting back to other conditions
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...everity#Why-hyperfibrinolysis-may-be-to-blame

Here's another article with more quotes from Dr. Oxley
http://komonews.com/news/local/new-covid-19-side-effect-in-people-under-50

Doctors say they're used to seeing stroke patients over age 50, but these younger patients are coming in at a greater rate than normal and they're testing positive for covid-19.

Dr. Thomas Oxley is a neurosurgeon at Mt. Sinai who first made the connection.

“These patients were all in their 30s and 40s. two had no underlying conditions. These are not particularly sick patients," he said.

He’s now published an urgent communication for other doctors, in the New England Journal of Medicine, detailing the uptick in young patients they’ve seen over the course of just 2 weeks, suffering a stroke.

"I did this procedure weeks ago and it was a young patient who had been at home with covid. And that struck me as unusual. Then we saw a run of patients in the same category," he said

So now we wait for this to be vetted and see what other doctors are seeing. People familiar with the factors and procedures you are referencing.

 

[Bucklion]

As a pulmonary embolism survivor and now a Xarelto lifer, I’d suggest common sense. Did these people smoke, were they obese, were they on birth control (women), did they live sedentary lives? All very high risk factors. Were they tall? Yes, that matters too! Any blood conditions similar to the one Brent Darby had, for example? Next, how long were they lying in bed? Was the hospital observing the same anti-clotting protocol as they would another sedentary patient? Very, very doubtful. Viruses don’t cause clotting. Plain and simple. If you’re going to write an article like that, educate your reader, don’t unnecessarily scare them for clicks.

You seem awfully certain of that. If a class of viruses like Ebola can break down endothelial cells to cause hemorrhaging, what’s to say a different class of viruses can’t affect the blood clotting factors?

 

[heisman]

You seem awfully certain of that. If a class of viruses like Ebola can break down endothelial cells to cause hemorrhaging, what’s to say a different class of viruses can’t affect the blood clotting factors?

I’m confident the author doesn’t know the answer to the questions I pose, and is creating fear without educating his reader. Embarrassing. Does paralysis cause clotting? Does hip surgery cause clotting? How about a broken pelvis, or femur? The answer is yes, based on the author’s logic. Are they giving sedentary patients Lovenox, or do they have their feet in flowtrons? Very, very doubtful.

 

[heisman]

There are other articles on this subject, getting back to other conditions
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...everity#Why-hyperfibrinolysis-may-be-to-blame

Here's another article with more quotes from Dr. Oxley
http://komonews.com/news/local/new-covid-19-side-effect-in-people-under-50


So now we wait for this to be vetted and see what other doctors are seeing. People familiar with the factors and procedures you are referencing.

I get my d-dimer level checked monthly. Very standard. Many blood conditions cause clotting and they can easily do a blood test, and again, no mention in the article of any blood work whatsoever.

 

[heisman]

Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals, which operates 14 medical centers in Philadelphia, and NYU Langone Health in New York City, found that 12 of their patients treated for large blood blockages in their brains during a three-week period had the virus. Forty percent were under 50, and they had few or no risk factors. Their paper is under review by a medical journal, said Pascal Jabbour, a neurosurgeon at Thomas Jefferson.

That's not a very useful sample size, but we're also 2 months into a 12-18 month process of discovering what this thing does.

The blockages don’t materialize in the brain, however, it’s where the blockage landed. You can have anatomical issues as well. Mostly in tall people like me. Check the difference between Brandon Ingram and Chris Bosh, for example. Anatomical issues can be corrected, which is why Ingram continues to play, but Bosh would never ever be cleared to play.

 

[Taosman]

Yea. It looks like clots in the lungs are traveling and causing strokes and blockages like the Broadway performer who lost a leg. This is some nasty horrifying shit. All kinds of related stuff being talked about like Flomax (prostate drug) having some positive effect. Curiously, I take a generic Flomax for my prostate. Perhaps I really did have Covid in March and fought it off after one miserable night. I took aspirin and hydrated. I had chills, extreme body cramping and a racing heart. Very scary. One day I will get tested.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-immune-response/610228/

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals, which operates 14 medical centers in Philadelphia, and NYU Langone Health in New York City, found that 12 of their patients treated for large blood blockages in their brains during a three-week period had the virus. Forty percent were under 50, and they had few or no risk factors. Their paper is under review by a medical journal, said Pascal Jabbour, a neurosurgeon at Thomas Jefferson.

That's not a very useful sample size, but we're also 2 months into a 12-18 month process of discovering what this thing does.

That’s an interesting finding. Would be interesting to see if it’s common across other geographies as well as incidence of Covid among other stroke victims.

On the surface that statistic is alarming as stroke within that age cohort is pretty low, right? There must be something there? Or is there?

They also need to report incidence of no covid among stoke victims in the age cohort as well as the underlying incidence rate (estimate?) of covid in the geography within the age cohort... among other basic incidence rates to complete the picture.

Not saying that there isn’t something going on, but it’s irresponsible to dump only one part of the story out there without the full information that would be required to fully assess.

Ultimately they are implying that there is an incremental likelihood of stroke given the presence of covid. Those statistics reported do not provide enough data to determine if that’s the case, let alone any form of statistical confidence.

Heading off to see if I can find the full article.

 

[heisman]

Yea. It looks like clots in the lungs are traveling and causing strokes and blockages like the Broadway performer who lost a leg. This is some nasty horrifying shit. All kinds of related stuff being talked about like Flomax (prostate drug) having some positive effect. Curiously, I take a generic Flomax for my prostate. Perhaps I really did have Covid in March and fought it off after one miserable night. I took aspirin and hydrated. I had chills, extreme body cramping and a racing heart. Very scary. One day I will get tested.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-immune-response/610228/

I’m glad you brought this up to further educate my brethren here. Cordero lost his leg because of fucking malpractice!! Plain and simple. He has serious blood clotting issues and the doctors took him off his blood thinners when he got the Covid!! Fucking dumbest thing I’ve ever read in my life!! And yes, it really pisses me off!!

 

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[lvbuckeye]

stores had to pull their supply to limit access. Not just human stores either, tons of animal supply stores did the same. There's a reason all of those crazy warning signs exist about eating poison or holding the wrong end of the chainsaw.

There are many millions who have defended the interest in injecting disinfectant into the body.

The social media apologetics (found elsewhere) about the type of disinfectant or method of insertion is excruciating and illuminating. It being unspecified disinfectant instead of Lysol does nothing to lessen the danger or stupidity.

Is it technically inaccurate to define the type of disinfectant? Yes. Is it also a constant journalistic requirement to reword the president's words to make them readable? Yes.

How does one report about such ignorant rambling accurately and safely? If you report the fact-free blathering (that goes for the sunlight part too), you give it an underserved platform and credibility.

If you fact check it and call it untrue, readers tune you out as being fake and unfair.

If you don't report it, others accuse you of suppression and bias, and not just his supporters.

Stores had to pull their supply because the media LIES, AND LIES, AND LIES AGAIN. No one ever said to drink or inject bleach or lysol, BUT THE FAKE ASS MEDIA REPORTED THAT TRUMP SAID TO DRINK OR INJECT BLEACH OR LYSOL.