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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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Bucklion said:
Well there’s no vaccines for viruses, so...start there
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one place i've never entertained myself with is anti-vax. or for that matter, chemtrails.


though i love conspiracy theories, my default position is this:

conspiracy theories make the world an easier place to live in. despite -- or perhaps because of -- all the evil in the world, it's easier to fall asleep at night believing that things happen for a reason and that crafty geniuses rule the world. the reality is far more scary. world's a bunch of doofuses looking out for their own ass.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
one place i've never entertained myself with is anti-vax. or for that matter, chemtrails.


though i love conspiracy theories, my default position is this:

conspiracy theories make the world an easier place to live in. despite -- or perhaps because of -- all the evil in the world, it's easier to fall asleep at night believing that things happen for a reason and that crafty geniuses rule the world. the reality is far more scary. world's a bunch of doofuses looking out for their own ass.
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The problem is conspiracy theories give crazy people a sense of moral and intellectual superiority because they’re the only “non-sheep” who have it “all figured out”. That can be dangerous too.
 
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The thing about conspiracy theories is that they generally require the conspirators to simultaneously be brilliantly devious and organized and staggeringly incompetent.

Leaving aside that blanket observation, with respect to this theory, what we simply call "cancer" is shorthand for a highly complex set of medical conditions that do not appear to be transmissible between humans (certain kinds of tumors can be transmitted among dogs), seem to have a myriad of causes, and definitely have an even bigger myriad of manifestations and effects. Unless the supposed polio vaccine derived cancer starter is closely related to whatever genes cause the varied morphology of dogs, it seems unlikely that it can be "the cause" of cancer. You'd also think that our "elites" would have a way to not get killed by cancer, but that's not the case.
 
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Bucklion said:
The problem is conspiracy theories give crazy people a sense of moral and intellectual superiority because they’re the only “non-sheep” who have it “all figured out”. That can be dangerous too.
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i don't at all disagree that the scattered world of conspiracy theory is very dangerous, especially in this post-truth electronic age. not only do too many people not care whether something is true or false, they don't care that there was ever a distinction in the first place.
 
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Bucklion said:
The problem is conspiracy theories give crazy people a sense of moral and intellectual superiority because they’re the only “non-sheep” who have it “all figured out”. That can be dangerous too.
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There was an interview with a 60-ish Q-Anon believer who basically said (I'm paraphrasing), seemingly unwittingly and with no sense of irony, "I've been a gullible sucker all my life, but now, finally, my eyes are opened and I see the truth." I wanted someone to ask her: "You just acknowledged that you've been a gullible sucker all of your life. What makes you think that now, at 60 when you're to some degree in cognitive decline like everybody else, you're the smartest most informed woman in the room and that this time is different?"
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
nazism 101
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As a Jew, the most ridiculous thing about the conspiracy theories directed at us is the idea that a group of Jews of any size could agree on any course of action long enough to execute it and, on the blind chicken finding corn chance that they somehow actually succeeded, not broadcast the success to the entire world.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
As a Jew, the most ridiculous thing about the conspiracy theories directed at us is the idea that a group of Jews of any size could agree on any course of action long enough to execute it and, on the blind chicken finding corn chance that they somehow actually succeeded, not broadcast the success to the entire world.
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i'm not a jew, but i've spent pretty much my whole career among them. like 75% jewish, 20% goy, and 5% other. you guys bicker over everything. no way could you maintain a detailed conspiracy for millennia -- let alone a few weeks.

that's obviously an exaggeration, but you guys are too nutty for me. and that's what's great. best sense of humor among any nation, race, religion, whatever. the kernel of good comedy is self-deprecation. my sense of humor has definitely changed as a result.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
The thing about conspiracy theories is that they generally require the conspirators to simultaneously be brilliantly devious and organized and staggeringly incompetent.

Leaving aside that blanket observation, with respect to this theory, what we simply call "cancer" is shorthand for a highly complex set of medical conditions that do not appear to be transmissible between humans (certain kinds of tumors can be transmitted among dogs), seem to have a myriad of causes, and definitely have an even bigger myriad of manifestations and effects. Unless the supposed polio vaccine derived cancer starter is closely related to whatever genes cause the varied morphology of dogs, it seems unlikely that it can be "the cause" of cancer. You'd also think that our "elites" would have a way to not get killed by cancer, but that's not the case.
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Try reading the book. It's not a conspiracy theory.
 
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