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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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A CNN article from 7 hours ago (during my search) showed one Mumbai slum having almost 30x the population density of NYC. Oofah

Just sayin': I might have really "dodged a bullet" here with the timing. I was booked on a cruise where I would have been in India last week. Thursday and Friday the ship was to be in Mumbai. Fortunately Celebrity cancelled the cruise a little over a week before it was to start.
 
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Fauci said multiple times that he would rather be accused of overreacting and that there is no down side to overreacting. His comments align with your perception. When he said it, I yelled at the TV that there are indeed consequences to overreacting as well. People may die as well from the economic impact.

People will die from the fallout.
But that's on the politicians.
I doubt Fauci advised anyone to create a $4 Trillion slush fund.
Or to use this as an excuse to throw $500 billion at Boeing because they flopped on the Max.
Or to bail out the Cruise lines that register overseas to avoid US taxes and hardly employ any Americans.
... etc. etc. etc. ...
That bill passed last week is Christmas for the Oligarchs. They're literally dancing on our grandparents graves.

These corruption laden handouts prove there is more than enough money to ensure every single American would have had 3 square meals and a roof for the duration of this crisis.
But, politicians gave it to the rich.
They gave people $1200 ... and, by all reports, that won't be available for another 3 weeks.
While they lose their jobs and healthcare in the middle of a pandemic.

DNC already has blood on their hands by strong-arming primaries that could have been delayed or done by mail.

... but how does any of that tie into Dr. Fauci ? Or the other professional medical advice ?

Oh, and as of yesterday, Italy has called out the Army to protect grocery stores.
It's about to get interesting as bills hit in the next 2 weeks and people can't eat...
 
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This is interesting because it suggests that not everybody has already had it (if they had discrete populations wouldn't have such different hospitalization rates) and perhaps provides a rough baseline (different geographies will of course differ) for the extent to which social distancing helps reduce the spread of the disease.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/aroun...u6aSKVoncbHPrC9TS-iPcS8Qy5ZeBa0ADYroUQkXD76fo

If Vegas had it to the extent some people are claiming, they'd be NYC right now.
They're not.
Most likely, they just had the normal flu... which has been worse than usual this year. Everyone in my office passed it around. And in succession, everyone took a few days off work in a 2 week period.
But the spread/symptoms were both faster and less severe than the hospital beds shown with COVID.

States will be building walls..

Can we build one on the Mason Dixon and be done with it?
Also... I know we fought for Toledo... but which side do we really want them on ?

The irony of India is in there two class society it was probably the wealthy who brought in CoVid 19.

It's also the wealthy who are most terrified of it and willing to adopt draconian measures for their own safety.
Doubt many of the worker class live to their 70s.

Skype is the worst. Zoom and BlueJeans are pretty good. MS teams is somewhere in the middle. I feel bad for those stuck on Skype. I avoid meeting with people who use Skype.

Zoom doesn't even work with bluetooth.

On the Toledo news tonight Promedica is going to ship Covid patients down from Detroit to Toledo. WTH is that? Besides BS. I know they haven't run out of hospitals in Xichigan.

Too late fir that wall.

This seems to answer my previous question. Other side of the wall it is then.

We'll never know because, despite Gestapo like tendencies of certain Governors, you can't lock down the United States like you can lock down China.

We are also dealing with a prediction in the 100,000 range now. When this mess started they were handed a paper that had numbers like 2.2MM worst case and 1.1MM most likely case.

I know it will never happen with the current sad state of affairs in the MSM but I think that is worth noting.

The question they should have asked is what we'd look like if we had a manufacturing base, functioning healthcare, sick leave, and early border control.

Also, if we did nothing... you're easily looking at 1/3rd of pop getting it. 1% of 100mil is 1million people.
And with that many people, we're certainly looking at a total collapse of the hospitals... which would multiply that # by some factor. 2-3 million is a reasonable assumption with no social distancing, and having already assumed the complete and total failure of US politics.
 
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Everything you need to know about the USNS Comfort, the giant hospital ship in NYC

The ship has been sent to relieve pressure on the city’s overtaxed hospitals

At 10AM ET on March 30th, the US Navy’s gigantic floating hospital ship, the USNS Comfort, arrived in New York City where it has been sent to help relieve the pressure on the city’s hospitals that are overwhelmed with coronavirus patients.

The Comfort’s 1,000 beds and 12 operating rooms will largely be used for non-coronavirus patients, freeing up much-needed space at the city’s overtaxed hospitals. The ship is typically used to support military campaigns and humanitarian crises abroad, along with earthquake and hurricane relief. Most recently, it was deployed to Latin America, helping countries with inadequate health care systems. It was last stationed in New York City after the 9/11 terrorist attacks where it helped treat hundreds of first responders.

The ship has been around for over four decades and been deployed all around the world. Here is everything else you need to know about the USNS Comfort.

It’s a converted oil tanker. The ship didn’t start out as a hospital ship, but as a San Clemente-class oil supertanker called the SS Rose City. It was built by the National Steel and Shipbuilding Company in San Diego in 1976. The US Navy purchased it in 1987, along with another supertanker, with the goal of converting both into Mercy-class hospital ships. The Comfort’s sister ship, the USNS Mercy, is currently being deployed to the West Coast.

But as a converted oil tanker, moving patients around can prove difficult. The bulkheads used to separate the oil weren’t removed during the retrofitting, nor were hatches added to improve horizontal movement through the ship. Most of the movement of patients from one area to another must be made by going up to the deck first and then back down.

Painted white with several prominent red crosses, the ship’s look is designed to illustrate its purpose and protect its crew and cargo against hostile attacks. The Geneva Convention protects hospital ships if they carry no munitions or weapons; any country that fires on one is charged with an international war crime.



Comfort is a big ship — like, really big. The ship is around 100 feet tall, which is the size of a 10-story building. It has a deep draft — it displaces 70,473 tons of water — and, in many ports, it has to stand at least a mile offshore. Over 894 feet long (272 meters), the Comfort is about the length of three football fields and can travel at a speed of 17.5 knots (20.1 mph).

To receive patients, the Comfort has a large helipad, with the capacity to land large, military-grade helicopters. The ship also has the ability to accept patients from other ships docked alongside. Comfort can be fully activated and crewed within five days.

She is a complete medical facility that even includes a dental clinic, four x-ray machines and a CT scanner. A pair of oxygen-producing plants, an optometry lab and coolers to hold 5,000 units of blood are all part of her tool box. Comfort is a hospital that can sustain up to 2,000 people onboard, crew combined with patients, and supply much-needed water to both as she maintained a fresh water plant making up to 300,000 gallons of water a day. Other onboard services include a satellite lab and a central area for sterile causality receiving. A medical supply depot, along with a well-stocked pharmacy, are all included. Due to the nature of her work she has a large laundry operations and her own morgue.



The Comfort has been to war zones and disasters alike. The ship has been to Haiti at least twice in recent years: once in 1994 to help process migrants who wanted to escape the unrest and again in 2010 after a magnitude 7 earthquake laid waste to the nation’s capital of Port-au-Prince.

It has also been deployed to the Persian Gulf several times over the years. Stationed near Kuwait and Saudi Arabia in 1990, Comfort saw 8,700 patients, 2,100 helicopter landings, and 337 surgeries in its 12 operating rooms. It was also stationed there in 2002 during the US invasion of Iraq.

The need for additional hospital capacity in New York City is enormous. In addition to the Comfort, the city is also building field hospitals at the Javits Center and in Central Park.

Entire article: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/30/...l-ship-nyc-coronavirus-size-beds-history-navy
 
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If Vegas had it to the extent some people are claiming, they'd be NYC right now.
They're not.
Most likely, they just had the normal flu... which has been worse than usual this year. Everyone in my office passed it around. And in succession, everyone took a few days off work in a 2 week period.
But the spread/symptoms were both faster and less severe than the hospital beds shown with COVID.



Can we build one on the Mason Dixon and be done with it?
Also... I know we fought for Toledo... but which side do we really want them on ?



It's also the wealthy who are most terrified of it and willing to adopt draconian measures for their own safety.
Doubt many of the worker class live to their 70s.



Zoom doesn't even work with bluetooth.



This seems to answer my previous question. Other side of the wall it is then.



The question they should have asked is what we'd look like if we had a manufacturing base, functioning healthcare, sick leave, and early border control.

Also, if we did nothing... you're easily looking at 1/3rd of pop getting it. 1% of 100mil is 1million people.
And with that many people, we're certainly looking at a total collapse of the hospitals... which would multiply that # by some factor. 2-3 million is a reasonable assumption with no social distancing, and having already assumed the complete and total failure of US politics.
A lot of people in India worry about their next meal .,also limited refrigeration no hoarding..used to shopping at markets everyday.
 
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Oh, and as of yesterday, Italy has called out the Army to protect grocery stores.
It's about to get interesting as bills hit in the next 2 weeks and people can't eat...


Been saying that since day one of the lockdown stuff.

It's all fun and games until people get hungry.

People are going to get hungry once they can't use their credit cards at the grocery store anymore and they have no actual money coming in.

We are about 30 days into that process which is only a 30-90 day process for a large swath of Americans.

Supply line failure and/or buying capacity evaporation are what could blow the roof off of this tinderbox and the fuse was lit because of this poorly thought out/executed state by state lockdown fiasco.
 
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Been saying that since day one of the lockdown stuff.

It's all fun and games until people get hungry.

People are going to get hungry once they can't use their credit cards at the grocery store anymore and they have no actual money coming in.

We are about 30 days into that process which is only a 30-90 day process for a large swath of Americans.

Supply line failure and/or buying capacity evaporation are what could blow the roof off of this tinderbox and the fuse was lit because of this poorly thought out/executed state by state lockdown fiasco.

 
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