Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

[jwinslow]

When did the US start ramping up the amounts of tests done? Watching the video, it appears the surge start around 18-19 March. New York has almost half the amount of cases in the US (53,520 of 125,161 cases, as of this morning). That, coupled with the increased amount of testing could play as much a part in the recent surge as how contagious the virus is.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/n...rus-map-of-the-us-latest-cases-state-by-state

Taking stats from the linked article, New York has 834 deaths, compared with 1360 deaths for the other 49 states, DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands. The three other places with the most deaths are New Jersey (next to NYC), Washington state (had a large number of deaths in a nursing home), and Louisiana (Nawlins). Those four places alone account for 1300 of 2194, or almost 60%, of the deaths in the US, and 42 of 50 states have less than 50 deaths.

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Correction: we shifted from "not testing" around March 18-19. We still do not have a complete testing system, which means at best, we have started plotting the first real data. Data that is missing a wide range of mild & severe cases that are not tested because it's a misuse of our painfully limited time & resources.

Which means it will be many weeks before we can begin to analyze any data. Procrastination will be our undoing, if it has not already undone us.

 

[heisman]

Correction: we shifted from "not testing" around March 18-19. We still do not have a complete testing system, which means at best, we have started plotting the first real data. Data that is missing a wide range of mild & severe cases that are not tested because it's a misuse of our painfully limited time & resources.

Which means it will be many weeks before we can begin to analyze any data. Procrastination will be our undoing, if it has not already undone us.

There isn’t much reason to test the populous from a medical treatment perspective. It’s certainly an excellent way to quarantine asymptomatic individuals to limit spreading. We are way past that scenario, however.

 

[Best Buckeye]

I would advocate testing with symptoms and arrivals and departures of travels, including moving from one state/area to another. I would also protect the people who can't afford medical insurance to be covered by State/Federal Gov't. This in order to make sure that no one is refused medical care during/because of this pandemic.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Correction: we shifted from "not testing" around March 18-19. We still do not have a complete testing system, which means at best, we have started plotting the first real data. Data that is missing a wide range of mild & severe cases that are not tested because it's a misuse of our painfully limited time & resources.

Which means it will be many weeks before we can begin to analyze any data. Procrastination will be our undoing, if it has not already undone us.

This is ridiculous. Millions and millions of people have already had it and recovered.

 

[Onebuckfan]

From the National Institute of Health SEER statistics. 2019 new cancer cases 1.8 million 2019 deaths 600,000 plus.

 

[Jake]

This is ridiculous. Millions and millions of people have already had it and recovered.

Millions and millions?

 

[sparcboxbuck]

This is ridiculous. Millions and millions of people have already had it and recovered.

While I think that this is an under discussed group, and also likely under counted, I think that to suggest that it’s multi-million without any evidence — even if from current models from which it could be backed into — may be an overstatement.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Millions and millions?

I think the increased testing is going to revel that this has been spreading a lot faster and wider than we thought...the earlier video showed that, when horse race chute opened up around 18-19 March when all the US testing started. I would not be surprised that, if we had even enough test done, that over a million have/had it...hell, we've already confirmed nearly 200,000 cases total with about 10 days of still-limited testing.

 

[lvbuckeye]

While I think that this is an under discussed group, and also likely under counted, I think that to suggest that it’s multi-million without any evidence — even if from current models from which it could be backed into — may be an overstatement.

We live in the third most populous county in the world. Millions of people have already had it and recovered. Everyone seems to forget that the people who wind up hospitalized are a small minority of the total cases. The reasons that millions of people didn't get tested are 1) because tests weren't widely available until ~10 days ago, and 2) because they weren't sick enough to warrant a hospital visit.

30,000 people have died from the flu since October. 2400 people have died from coronavirus.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

From the National Institute of Health SEER statistics. 2019 new cancer cases 1.8 million 2019 deaths 600,000 plus.

Are you gatekeeping illnesses?

 

[jwinslow]

This is ridiculous. Millions and millions of people have already had it and recovered.

Which was the mild I was talking about. We've made a number of willful choices to keep us naked and unprepared for both extremes:

- This isn't nearly as serious as we think, and because we had raw data we could have taken off the blindfold and stopped hiding in the corner because we couldn't see the dangers around us.

- The severity is going to be even worse than we think, and we could have taken this seriously months ago instead of twiddling our thumbs about what we thought was under control

 

[Thump]

Joe Diffie dead of it.

Shit's getting real.

Prop him up by the Jukebox.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

We live in the third most populous county in the world. Millions of people have already had it and recovered. Everyone seems to forget that the people who wind up hospitalized are a small minority of the total cases. The reasons that millions of people didn't get tested are 1) because tests weren't widely available until ~10 days ago, and 2) because they weren't sick enough to warrant a hospital visit.

30,000 people have died from the flu since October. 2400 people have died from coronavirus.

Could be right. We don’t know for sure. I do strongly suspect that I am one of those not counted. But I can’t say for sure.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Which was the mild I was talking about. We've made a number of willful choices to keep us naked and unprepared for both extremes:

- This isn't nearly as serious as we think, and because we had raw data we could have taken off the blindfold and stopped hiding in the corner because we couldn't see the dangers around us.

- The severity is going to be even worse than we think, and we could have taken this seriously months ago instead of twiddling our thumbs about what we thought was under control

Which is it?

 

[Taosman]

Failure to take it seriously has probably led to a more extreme outcome. We will probably not have accurate data for various reasons until next year. Well into next flu/Covid season. But at least we'll be much better prepared.