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Lifehacker is featuring this article about sunk cost fallacy and why people keep playing Farmville. This quote shows how some of the research in the field was framed. I am curious to see how BP's results compare to the original.

Hal Arkes and Catehrine Blumer created an experiment in 1985 which demonstrated your tendency to go fuzzy when sunk costs come along. They asked subjects to assume they had spent $100 on a ticket for a ski trip in Michigan, but soon after found a better ski trip in Wisconsin for $50 and bought a ticket for this trip too. They then asked the people in the study to imagine they learned the two trips overlapped and the tickets couldn?t be refunded or resold. Which one do you think they chose, the $100 good vacation, or the $50 great one?

What would you choose? Let's do science!
 
Deety;1900016; said:
Lifehacker is featuring this article about sunk cost fallacy and why people keep playing Farmville. This quote shows how some of the research in the field was framed. I am curious to see how BP's results compare to the original.



What would you choose? Let's do science!

Thank you for posting that article! I'd fallen victim to MafiaWars two years ago, and got out after 6 months. My wife is actively involved in Farmville along with a number of other family members (her mother in particular). I'll have to share this article tonight and see how fast I get shit upon.
 
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BigWoof31;1900030; said:
I'd take the trip to Michigan since I'd spent more money on it.

Which shows how stupid the average individual is. Since neither the $100 tcket nor the $50 ticket could be refunded, you've spent $150 on single trip (since the trips now overlap)...the initial inidivual costs are no longer a factor. So why would you take the "good" one over the "great" one simply because of the initial greater cost, which is now no longer a factor?
 
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BigWoof31;1900030; said:
I'd take the trip to Michigan since I'd spent more money on it.
I'd probably also consider the commute to both and how much $$ it would take to get to either resort.

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Over half of the people in the study went with the more expensive trip. It may not have promised to be as fun, but the loss seemed greater. That?s the fallacy at work, because the money is gone no matter what. You can?t get it back. The fallacy prevents you from realizing the best choice is to do whatever promises the better experience in the future, not which negates the feeling of loss in the past.
 
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Please explain to me this fallacy concept. I understand the mistake I made when picking the more expensive trip over the one that would provide the greater experience.

However, if I had selected the ski vacation that offered the better experience, how does a person elimiate these feelings of regret that was my "gut" reaction?
Essentially - how does one train themselves to take the "feelings" out of the decision?
 
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BigWoof31;1900063; said:
Please explain to me this fallacy concept. I understand the mistake I made when picking the more expensive trip over the one that would provide the greater experience.

From the article (these helped me understand):

Sunk costs are a favorite subject of economists. Simply put, they are payments, investments or costs which can never be recovered. An android with fully functioning logic circuits would never make a decision which took sunk costs into account, but you would. As an emotional human, your aversion to loss often leads you right into the sunk cost fallacy.
Loss aversion is one of your strongest drives. You know a confirmed loss lingers and grows in your mind, becoming larger in your history than it was when you first felt it. Whenever this clinging to the past becomes a factor in making decisions about your future, you run the risk of being derailed by the sunk cost fallacy.
Hal Arkes and Catehrine Blumer created an experiment in 1985 which demonstrated your tendency to go fuzzy when sunk costs come along. They asked subjects to assume they had spent $100 on a ticket for a ski trip in Michigan, but soon after found a better ski trip in Wisconsin for $50 and bought a ticket for this trip too. They then asked the people in the study to imagine they learned the two trips overlapped and the tickets couldn?t be refunded or resold. Which one do you think they chose, the $100 good vacation, or the $50 great one?
Over half of the people in the study went with the more expensive trip. It may not have promised to be as fun, but the loss seemed greater. That?s the fallacy at work, because the money is gone no matter what. You can?t get it back. The fallacy prevents you from realizing the best choice is to do whatever promises the better experience in the future, not which negates the feeling of loss in the past.
Kahneman and Tversky also conducted an experiment to demonstrate the sunk cost fallacy. See how you do with this one.
Imagine you go see a movie which costs $10 for a ticket. When you open your wallet or purse you realize you?ve lost a $10 bill. Would you still buy a ticket? You probably would. Only 12 percent of subjects said they wouldn?t. Now, imagine you go to see the movie and pay $10 for a ticket, but right before you hand it over to get inside you realize you?ve lost it. Would you go back and buy another ticket? Maybe, but it would hurt a lot more. In the experiment, 54 percent of people said they would not. The situation is the exact same. You lose $10 and then must pay $10 to see the movie, but the second scenario feels different. It seems as if the money was assigned to a specific purpose and then lost, and loss sucks. This is why Farmville is so addictive people have lost their jobs over it.

BW said:
However, if I had selected the ski vacation that offered the better experience, how does a person elimiate these feelings of regret that was my "gut" reaction?
Essentially - how does one train themselves to take the "feelings" out of the decision?

Don't know on that one.
 
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BigWoof31;1900063; said:
However, if I had selected the ski vacation that offered the better experience, how does a person elimiate these feelings of regret that was my "gut" reaction?
Essentially - how does one train themselves to take the "feelings" out of the decision?

Those feelings would probably be eliminated when you had a great, rather than good, time for the same amount of money.
 
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3074326;1900071; said:
Those feelings would probably be eliminated when you had a great, rather than good, time for the same amount of money.

Yes, the key according to this article is to focus on the "better experience in the future" rather than "the feeling of loss in the past".
 
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BigWoof31;1900063; said:
Please explain to me this fallacy concept. I understand the mistake I made when picking the more expensive trip over the one that would provide the greater experience.

However, if I had selected the ski vacation that offered the better experience, how does a person elimiate these feelings of regret that was my "gut" reaction?
Essentially - how does one train themselves to take the "feelings" out of the decision?

Alcohol has a way of eliminating all feelings of regret. I highly recommend...
 
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