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Confirmed: D. Washington, Clifford, O'Neal

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Oh8ch;1140917; said:
What does this do for the case against pot?

20 Percent of Scientists Admit Using Brain-Enhancing Drugs -- Do You? | Wired Science from Wired.com

For the sake of argument can we all agree that pot is moral and good? It improves thinking, makes you drive slower on the freeway, give more generously to charity, and produces those erections that last four hours or longer?

IF the team rule was don't drink milk and these guys showed up with a milk mustache they broke the rule. It makes no difference if we agree with the rule.

Now circle IF, underline it and highlight it and let's all go back to ganging up on HTM in the RR thread.
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ganging up and RR? I'm there!
 
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LordJeffBuck;1140908; said:
I notice that you say "was once a pot smoker", meaning that they no longer do it. How many of your acquaintances would risk throwing away their careers in "the real world" just so that they could keep hitting the bong? Probably not too many of them.... And the ones who would take that risk, how would you describe them?

A friend of mine once called college a "four year vacation", and I suppose that that is the case for most kids. But college athletes are in a different class - unlike the rest of us, their careers start the moment that they step foot on campus, not the day that they leave it. For them, college is "the real world", and they have to live and act accordingly.
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perhaps you should wait a few years to see if these kids "once were pot smokers" too. :wink:


and FYI, college is the "real world" for ALL of us. anything notion to the contrary is merely a figment of your imagination...
 
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lvbuckeye;1140862; said:
i replied from several pages ago regarding the lynch mob mentality and vociferous desires to 86 the perps from the program, so if this has been covered, please disregard...

college kids (allegedly) smoking rope? shock! horrors! it's Armageddon! what's next? dogs and cats getting along? it's witchcraft! flay them all! burn them at the stake!

get a grip, people. is your self worth so wrapped up in the on-field success of a football team comprised of mainly 18-22 year old college kids that you forget that off the field they are still 18-22 year old college kids? college kids do all kinds of dumb shit. it's part of being a college kid and part of growing up here in this thing that many people refer to as the real world.

kicking the (alleged) perps out won't do a lick of good, and if anything will push them in the wrong direction. what the (alleged) perps need more than anything else is to be around their (supposedly) less offending teammates. they get structure and discipline there, something that won't be afforded to them if they are off the team.
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good post LV..

LordJeffBuck;1140893; said:
We're not taking about "college kids" here, we're talking about world class semi-professional athletes who are paid (in the form of a free education) to play football and follow the (very simple) rules; they are not given scholarships so that they can engage in the typicial "dumb shit" that is "part of a college kid growing up". Is it a higher standard (no pun intended)? Of course it is, but we do (and should) expect more from the gifted people.

Your argument about the players being able to "get structure and discipline" from being part of the team has some merit, but at some point the kids have to demonstrate that they can actually live with the level of "structure and discipline" that is required of an Ohio State football player.
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.. and a good answer LJB

If smoking pot is wrong.. ehh fuck it, I'll just trust the coaches
 
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CPD

Ohio State suspends defensive backs Washington, O'Neal for first two games

Friday, August 08, 2008 Doug Lesmerises
Plain Dealer Reporter

Columbus- It's a good thing for Ohio State that USC isn't the second game of the year.
Nearly four months after they were seen running on the sidelines during spring practice as punishment for a violation of team rules, defensive backs Donald Washington and Jamario O'Neal confirmed Thursday that they have been suspended for the first two games of the season. Coach Jim Tressel previously had alluded to potential sanctions but never stated whether a suspension was set.
Washington, a junior, is a starting cornerback who started all 13 games last season. O'Neal, a senior safety from Glenville High, had been making a bid to play as the nickelback on passing downs. Fellow defensive back Eugene Clifford was also part of that spring punishment but has since transferred to Tennessee State.

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Dispatch
Washington confirms two-game suspension

Friday, August 8, 2008 2:58 AM
By Tim May


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/buckeyextra/osufbquiz.html

Donald Washington didn't run and hide at yesterday Ohio State's picture day, even though he confirmed he won't be in the picture for the defense the first two games. As had been rumored for months, the junior cornerback said yesterday he has been suspended for the opener against Youngstown State and the next game against Ohio University for breaking unspecified team rules. He would not elaborate.
"My first game will be USC," Washington said, referring to the third game of the season Sept. 13.
Backup safety Jamario O'Neal also confirmed he will miss the first two games because of a suspension. They, along with Eugene Clifford, who left the team during the summer, were first disciplined for something that occurred during the spring.
For Washington, a returning starter, losing two games is a price that he said will stoke his desire.
"Now I've put a little chip on my shoulder and I've just got to move on, take my situation and turn it into a positive and use it as motivation," he said. "I can't play the first two games, that's the reality of it. Those are facts."
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So we ARE down two DB's...

Sitting in Sunny San Diego I have NO idea what the heck just happened!!
My biggest concern isn't the games they miss but the games they'll get back and play.
What does everyone think about the backups? Can we run those guys out there and expect to be ok versus USC?
How bad is this?
 
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BukIvra_N_SoCal;1225905; said:
Sitting in Sunny San Diego I have NO idea what the heck just happened!!
My biggest concern isn't the games they miss but the games they'll get back and play.
What does everyone think about the backups? Can we run those guys out there and expect to be ok versus USC?
How bad is this?
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Chekwa was pushing for playing time all last year even with D-Wash in the line-up, and O'Neal had been relegated to a backup role and injury-replacement duty anyway. I don't think D-Wash will miss a beat when he returns. He still has more starting experience than any of the skill guys he'll be covering when the team heads to LA.

Their suspensions are a complete non-issue, IMHO, even with USC looming. The USC game will be won or lost based on whether OSU can move the ball on their defense, probably not so much the other way around.
 
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