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Colorado Buffaloes (official thread)

McCartney says CU can get back to being the elite program it was when he coached CU.
"That remains to be seen, but if you can do it once, you can do it again," he said. "You've got to remember, if I'm not mistaken, Colorado is one of the top 25 all-time winning programs in college football."

He is not mistaken. According to Stassen, Colorado was 20th entering this season.

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Boulder - If this were an investigation, Butch Davis would be labeled a "person of interest," not yet the sole focus, but not far from being established as the clear front-runner

Butchems should be a "person of interest" all right... in a "posing as a football coach" fraud investigation.:tongue2:
 
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Things Not Getting Better for those Buffs

Looks like some dirty laundry coming out in the wake of Barnett's departure.


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Audit questions Colorado spending, Barnett football camps</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER width="1" type="block" height="1"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>By EDDIE PELLS, AP Sports Writer
December 12, 2005
DENVER (AP) -- A state audit released Monday stated the records of former Colorado football coach Gary Barnett's football camp were in such disarray that auditors couldn't be sure whether any laws were broken in more than $400,000 worth of transactions.
Auditors said they were unable to determine where $328,000 paid to Barnett's camps came from -- 44 percent of the total income between 2002 and 2004. Nearly $103,000 in expenses from that period lacked sufficient paperwork, the audit said.
"The absence of documentation and financial records prevented us from obtaining reasonable assurance that there were no violations of laws and regulations," the audit report said.
Barnett stepped down under pressure last week after his teams lost their final three games of the regular season. His attorney, John Rodman, did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Separately, the audit questioned more than $300,000 in Colorado athletic department expenses since 2002 and said some administrators and members of the governing Board of Regents had not filed required conflict-of-interest reports.
In their review of athletic department finances, auditors said they found an "overall lack of controls over spending and cash advances that have led to poorly documented, questionable and unallowable expenses."
They questioned two cash advances, of $115,000 each, for team expenses at bowl games in 2002 and 2004. The report called them "excessive" and said about $16,000 lacked sufficient documentation.
The audit also questioned another $55,800 in football program expenses and $25,000 in bowl game expenses. It said the department did not have adequate controls over the use of "courtesy cars" loaned by car dealers.
Auditors also found fault with the regents and seven high-level university officials, saying they failed to file 38 required reports on conflicts of interest.
The audit made 15 recommendations for change, including tighter controls over cash advances, better documentation of expenses and more training.
Last week, university president Hank Brown announced an overhaul of CU's accounting and purchasing practices, including tightening spending controls in athletics. He and other school officials were expected to discuss the audit later Monday.
The audit was released four days after Barnett stepped down for a $3 million settlement of his contract. He had largely weathered a scandal in which at least nine women alleged they were sexually assaulted by athletes -- no criminal charges were ever filed -- but had watched his team struggle at the end of the season, including blowout losses to Nebraska and Texas. Like almost all coaches at big football schools, Barnett ran a football camp, earnings from which helped augment his salary and those of his assistants. But it came under scrutiny -- as did most aspects of Barnett's football program -- in the wake of the recruiting scandal that enveloped the university over the past couple of years. A regents-backed investigation concluded drugs, alcohol and sex were used to entice recruits to the Boulder campus, though none of practices were sanctioned by university officials. Barnett emerged relatively clean from the scandal, although school president Betsy Hoffman, chancellor Richard Byyny and athletic director Dick Tharp all left in the aftermath.


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It's fascinating how people hate "the media" when they slander tOSU, but seems to assume that the media has told nothing but the truth when they slander CU or other schools.

I'm not a huge Barnett fan, and he wasn't great for CU because he's kind a hangdog guy, and that program needs a salesman for a variety of endogenous reasons having to do with the nature and out-of-state location of much of the CU alumni base, the fact that Denver-Boulder is really a Broncos town, the lack of a really great in-state recruiting base, and a general disconnect between the cultural and political environment in Boulder and the rest of the state.

That said, I'd bet my house that nobody raped Katie Hnida, and Barnett's comment about her was spot on if politically incorrect. She's a flat out novelty who has always been chasing publicity, and maybe book or movie deals. Keep in mind that for all the screaming and yelling from uber-feminists Mary Keenan (the Boulder D.A.) and Kathy Redmond, not only was no CU player convicted of rape, no player was even charged. Rest assured that Keenan would have charged these guys if she had ANYTHING even remotely credible. Moreover, two CU players accused of rape were conclusively exonerated by DNA testing. CU has had problems, and Barnett probably isn't blameless, but CU's ex-AD was incompetent, the Boulder P.C. crowd has always been out to hang that program, and the media has blown things completely out of proportion.

BTW: Davis will not take the CU job. They now have a Mason-Tressel choice between the safe choice Jon "Mason" Embree and the gambler's pick Dan "Tressel" Hawkins. Both have high interest in the job.
 
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It's fascinating how people hate "the media" when they slander tOSU, but seems to assume that the media has told nothing but the truth when they slander CU or other schools.

I'm not a huge Barnett fan, and he wasn't great for CU because he's kind a hangdog guy, and that program needs a salesman for a variety of endogenous reasons having to do with the nature and out-of-state location of much of the CU alumni base, the fact that Denver-Boulder is really a Broncos town, the lack of a really great in-state recruiting base, and a general disconnect between the cultural and political environment in Boulder and the rest of the state.

That said, I'd bet my house that nobody raped Katie Hnida, and Barnett's comment about her was spot on if politically incorrect. She's a flat out novelty who has always been chasing publicity, and maybe book or movie deals. Keep in mind that for all the screaming and yelling from uber-feminists Mary Keenan (the Boulder D.A.) and Kathy Redmond, not only was no CU player convicted of rape, no player was even charged. Rest assured that Keenan would have charged these guys if she had ANYTHING even remotely credible. Moreover, two CU players accused of rape were conclusively exonerated by DNA testing. CU has had problems, and Barnett probably isn't blameless, but CU's ex-AD was incompetent, the Boulder P.C. crowd has always been out to hang that program, and the media has blown things completely out of proportion.

BTW: Davis will not take the CU job. They now have a Mason-Tressel choice between the safe choice Jon "Mason" Embree and the gambler's pick Dan "Tressel" Hawkins. Both have high interest in the job.

Sorry man...I just don't see it. Katie may be publicity hungry, and she may have been a terrible kicker, but you don't respond to a rape allegation by saying that...period. No one know what really happened except the people who were there, and to respond like that was horrible, no matter what happened. Factor in his response to a 70-3 loss as "Well, a lot of people have lost bad to Texas this year" or whatever the exact quote was, and that's all I needed to know about him (which actually I knew already). I'm sure he'll catch back on somewhere (if Hal Mumme did, he will), but blaming political correctness for Gary Barnett's problems is way off base in my opinion.
 
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I'm not blaming political correctness for all of his problems. I live in Denver and probably follow this a lot more closely than most do, and I am saying that there was WAY WAY WAY more smoke than fire in the CU "scandal." I'm also saying that Dick Tharp, CU's former AD, was 50 times the scumbag that Barnett could ever even try to be. Barnett's not a charismatic guy and was appropriately fired for being unable to recruit the kind of talent CU needs to be competitive in the Big 12 and unable to coach well enough to mask the recruiting deficiencies.

Did you actually see the Hnida comment or just read about it? Contrary to what was reported, Barnett didn't even imply, much less say, that rape was okay because she sucked. Basically he got harangued repeatedly by a mob of reporters until he finally snapped and committed the ultimate sin: He told the truth, which is that she sucked as a kicker. He probably should have been smarter and kept his cool, but he was hardly Bob Knight saying "relax and enjoy it."
 
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I'm not blaming political correctness for all of his problems. I live in Denver and probably follow this a lot more closely than most do, and I am saying that there was WAY WAY WAY more smoke than fire in the CU "scandal." I'm also saying that Dick Tharp, CU's former AD, was 50 times the scumbag that Barnett could ever even try to be. Barnett's not a charismatic guy and was appropriately fired for being unable to recruit the kind of talent CU needs to be competitive in the Big 12 and unable to coach well enough to mask the recruiting deficiencies.

Did you actually see the Hnida comment or just read about it? Contrary to what was reported, Barnett didn't even imply, much less say, that rape was okay because she sucked. Basically he got harangued repeatedly by a mob of reporters until he finally snapped and committed the ultimate sin: He told the truth, which is that she sucked as a kicker. He probably should have been smarter and kept his cool, but he was hardly Bob Knight saying "relax and enjoy it."

Yes, I saw it several times. I didn't say he said it was "OK", but my point is that what he said had nothing to do with the rape, which is a seriously ohrrible thing to happen to anybody. So she was a bad kicker...what does that have to do with whether she was raped or not? Nothing, of course, which is why the comment made it at least SOUND like he was saying something untoward, even if he wasn't. It was a PR nightmare, if not a glimpse at the true Barnett, and I don't know him, so I can't and won't say with something like that. And as for being "harangued" by the press, well...making millions of dollars to coach football at a large DIA school will do that to you. Have to handle it better than that, or don't take the job.

I don't imply that everything is on Barnett, or that the AD wasn't a scumbag, or the President incompetent...of course they were. But they are all gone...and Barnett needed to join them.
 
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Did you actually see the Hnida comment or just read about it? Contrary to what was reported, Barnett didn't even imply, much less say, that rape was okay because she sucked. Basically he got harangued repeatedly by a mob of reporters until he finally snapped and committed the ultimate sin: He told the truth, which is that she sucked as a kicker. He probably should have been smarter and kept his cool, but he was hardly Bob Knight saying "relax and enjoy it."
this paragraph is killing your argument. he did do something awful... he ran down his own player, who on top of that was a woman and was raped. Maybe the evil reporters were poking him with tasers, but he still was out of line with his comment.

what if nuge never got another chance after his freshman year, and then got raped? Would that give tressel a right to talk about how bad he sucked... as tho that somehow made it less terrible that he was raped?

come on man. maybe this is overblown, but you're making it sound like he had a right to throw her under the bus.
 
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She threw HIM under the bus. She couldn't play and unlike Nugent didn't have the leg strength to where she'd ever have been able to play except as a token XP kicker for blowouts. She was a Neuheisel publicity stunt, and Barnett, to what I'm sure is his everlasting regret, kept her on to keep the good publicity of the story going and/or avoid the bad publicity of cutting her in P.C. Boulder. Not cutting her was the bigger moral failing on his part.

She then comes up with a rape allegation literally years after the rape supposedly happened and after other rape allegation, also months at least after it supposedly happened, came out. From Barnett's perspective, a woman who he inherited, who he probably felt he couldn't cut, and who wasn't a legitimate player came out of the blue and starting telling lies about him and his program. As Chris Rock would say, Barnett's comments might not have been right, but I understand. I don't think what Hnida did to Barnett is significantly different from the crap Clarett pulled on Geiger.

None of this is to say that Barnett was anything special or that he shouldn't have been fired. I'll see what I think of the audit report once I actually read it, which I'll probably do tonight, but at a minimum he was sloppy, and he was only a so-so coach and recruiter, but the public accusations that he's some kind of monster go way beyond what the evidence supports IMO.
 
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Kraigthorpe from Tulsa turned them down for an interview today.

Mike Bohn says that no one with Colorado ties will get the job (Jon Embree.)

Unfortunately, they are going to be scraping the pile before it's all over for 3 reasons.

1. The ongoing scandal, but now the house in completely cleaned but who to recruit?

2. The ludicrous restraints put on recruiting by the administraction.

3. I'm not real sure about this number but something like 3% of the student body is black. Why would motivate a black athlete?

Guarantee, Mason is not going through all his gyrations for drill...dum luck maybe?
 
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