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Remember that weird game--Super Bowl champs vs college all-stars?

No college team could compete. Still, they used to play that weird preseason game. Some of the college all-star teams did okay, as I recall. But that wasn't a real game. Even the Texans, wretched as they are, would probably win. And that is not a common sentiment down here in Austin. Whomever wrote that is WEIRD.

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footballfanatic said:
No college team could compete. Still, they used to play that weird preseason game. Some of the college all-star teams did okay, as I recall. But that wasn't a real game. Even the Texans, wretched as they are, would probably win. And that is not a common sentiment down here in Austin. Whomever wrote that is WEIRD.

Funny promotion from a gas station. Free cup of coffee win the Texans win. It's ingenious. They haven't spent a dime.
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They ought to give out the coffee during the game to keep the Texans fans awake. 48 passing yards??? WTF?
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
most teams arent loaded with AA and high draft picks, the reality is all types of players play in the nfl not just 1,2,3 rounders. some guys bloom late others slipped under the recruiting "microscope"
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most of the "late bloomers" were still very good players in college. The fact is that they are hand-picking the best talent from college every year, and retaining them for 10 years or more at times. College teams have a few great underclassmen, but a lot of players take a while to develop.
 
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Several people have mentioned that period of insanity during 2002 when people were suggesting that Cryami would beat the Bungles. IIRC there WAS a team from Ohio that dispelled that myth in very early 2003...

anyhoo... When that subject came up during an episode of "Spielman on Sports" that year, #36 had kittens. He said, "Cincinnati would beat them by FORTY!" (emphasis his).

The primary reason Chris gave for the blow-out is something that I have not seen mentioned on this thread yet. He gave a passing mention of the talent disparity, which seems to be the main theme of this discussion; but the factor he declared as primary was the VAST difference in practice time between the NCAA and the NFL.

In Spielman's words, "In college, you practice until the NCAA rules say you have to stop. In the NFL, you practice a play until you GET IT RIGHT. It doesn't matter if you have to go all night. It's your JOB."

That's not my 2 cents on the subject. That's a pro bowler's opinion. Take it for what it's worth.
 
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On top of what Spiels said I would add the oft overlooked age factor.

Your gonna have 27-28-30 year old grizzled vets lining up against teenagers for Gods sake.

I remember Howie Long talking about getting his ass kicked as a rookie by Art Shell. I remember Bob Golic talking about how Mike Webster "did tricks with him" and rolled him down the field about 7 yards a play his rookie year. How many Howie Longs does any college team have on it?

The point of the talent disparity has been made but I think its worth repeating when this annual staple of worthless sportswriter hyperbole rears its pathetic little head.

Worst NFL team of all time > Best CFB of all time
 
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drFunkenstein said:
i was just over at hornfans.com and saw a thread talkin about the 2005 longhorns being able to beat some NFL teams
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Whoever posted that should be more concerned with winning the rest of the Big 12 games and a possible showdown with USC for all the marbles. I think UT-USC would be a great matchup, and I eagerly await it; however, to bypass that game and start to consider whether UT could defeat a pro team, as has been posted by several others, is perverse.
 
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FindlayBucks said:
If you took the post-season All-America team, gave them 2 months to practice and the best college coaching staff you could assemble (I'm talking JT and Frank Beamer as co-special teams coaches, Charlie Weis at OC etc.) and put them on a field with the Texans they might score. They wouldn't be able to sustain a drive. It would be an annihilation of epic proportions. The talent level and speed of the game would be too much for the college kids. It would be fun to watch, in the same way it's fun to beat the CPU 100-0 on PS2, but it wouldn't be any fun for the college team.
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I posed this question on the NFL forum a couple of months ago, but it seems relevant to this conversation, and maybe I'll get some different responses.

Let's say I have an NFL team, and I trade all my players for draft picks. I trade them away for the first 50 or 55 draft picks in the next draft. First, what do you think my record would be that first season? Second, how long would it take me to become competitive in the NFL? Assume that after that first season, I'm allowed to make all the trades I want, all the free agent signings I want (under the rules, of course), etc.
 
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I would argue that this years USC squad is the only college offense that I've ever seen that could, with any consistency, score on below-average defenses in the NFL.

NFL offenses would run over USC's D, however.

When you consider Leinhart and Bush are top 5 picks, Smith, Jarrett, White and most of the offensive line will be drafted...it's hard to argue that they couldn't be competitive. Look at the 49ers talent in comparison and tell me USC has no chance to at least squeak a victory out in 1 of 10 games.

In most seasons, I'll agree that there is no scenerio that a college team could come within 14 points of an NFL team. While I'll also admit that any team in the NFL would beat any college team, I don't think that the line is quite the record breaking emberassment that some posters try to suggest.
 
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Zurp said:
I posed this question on the NFL forum a couple of months ago, but it seems relevant to this conversation, and maybe I'll get some different responses.

Let's say I have an NFL team, and I trade all my players for draft picks. I trade them away for the first 50 or 55 draft picks in the next draft. First, what do you think my record would be that first season? Second, how long would it take me to become competitive in the NFL? Assume that after that first season, I'm allowed to make all the trades I want, all the free agent signings I want (under the rules, of course), etc.
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0-16 for absolute certain...that's why the NFL is very careful how they create expansion teams. If they didn't have an uncovered list for each team that expansion teams could pilfer, they would be 0-16 for sure. Now, it would, of course, all depend on how you handled the offseason after year 1, but given the amount of signing bonuses you would have to dole out to all those draft picks, I'd say you'd be hamstrung for quite a while.
 
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footballfanatic said:
No college team could compete. Still, they used to play that weird preseason game. Some of the college all-star teams did okay, as I recall. But that wasn't a real game. Even the Texans, wretched as they are, would probably win. And that is not a common sentiment down here in Austin. Whomever wrote that is WEIRD.

Funny promotion from a gas station. Free cup of coffee win the Texans win. It's ingenious. They haven't spent a dime.
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You would have a much better game if you let the NC College team play rather than an all-star team. Most top 25 teams would beat a college all-star team IMO because they have played together for a year vs. a few weeks. But, the College team would still get beat every year.
 
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OilerBuck said:
I would argue that this years USC squad is the only college offense that I've ever seen that could, with any consistency, score on below-average defenses in the NFL.

NFL offenses would run over USC's D, however.

When you consider Leinhart and Bush are top 5 picks, Smith, Jarrett, White and most of the offensive line will be drafted...it's hard to argue that they couldn't be competitive. Look at the 49ers talent in comparison and tell me USC has no chance to at least squeak a victory out in 1 of 10 games.

In most seasons, I'll agree that there is no scenerio that a college team could come within 14 points of an NFL team. While I'll also admit that any team in the NFL would beat any college team, I don't think that the line is quite the record breaking emberassment that some posters try to suggest.
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I would argue that USC's offense couldn't score on tOSU's defense with any consistency. I doubt they could put more than 20 points on us, and I don't know that they would score at all vs. an NFL team. With all the playmakers they have, they may be able to score 1 touchdown over 4 quarters, but they wouldn't be able to put together an 80 yard, 15 play drive, even against the Texans.
 
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