College Playoff

[morbitzerker]

committee of twelve, including ND, to decide the top 25 at the end of the year? no bias, no bull right? sounds just as "fair" as the BCS.

 

[CleveBucks]

A proposal of a 'plus-4' after the BCS bowls is apparrently being discussed this week.

SI.com from the Denver Post.

So you have 5 BCS bowl winners and only 4 advance to the playoff? How do they decide which winner is left out? I'd also be interested in how the seeding of the 5 BCS bowls would work. Do they keep traditional conference tie-ins or are the matchups somehow determined by rank?

 

[HailToMichigan]

You guys in favor of a playoff need to find a smarter advocate than Orrin Hatch. Maybe a poo-flinging ape would help. Hatch is an idiot:

RealClearSports - Articles - 12 Questions With Sen. Orrin Hatch

But there's another tradition: The Cinderella story. The team that defies the odds, and despite its humble location and unknown roster, plays its way into National prominence. Now we see that in NCAA Basketball Tournament all the time. The BCS, more or less, makes it impossible for these Cinderella teams to contend for the National Championship. I think that takes a real good aspect of the game away. I'm serious. I think this is important.

Not only has a Cinderella never, ever, in the history of college football had a chance at the national championship, the BCS has actually opened the door for them far more than ever before in history. Boise State wouldn't have played Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl in the old system.

The antitrust argument isn't going to cut it. Every conference, "BCS conference" or not, has a guarantee for its champion to play in a bowl game. The Big Ten has the Rose; C-USA has the Liberty; the only difference is one is called a "BCS bowl" and one is not. The national championship is open to all teams. It wouldn't be hard to yank the rug out from the antitrust argument altogether, simply by dissolving the BCS and letting the ex-BCS bowls arrange their own contracts - which would result in Boise State never ever ever sniffing the Fiesta Bowl ever again - or anything more glamorous than Shreveport.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Not only has a Cinderella never, ever, in the history of college football had a chance at the national championship, the BCS has actually opened the door for them far more than ever before in history. Boise State wouldn't have played Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl in the old system.

And under the current system, a Boise State (see Utah) still will never get a chance at the BCS title game because they will always be voted low enough to be kept out of it due to their conference affiliation. 2006 Boise and 2008 Utah could've hung with any team in the country during those seasons but were never really in serious consideration for the title game, and were pretty lucky to even get into their BCS bowl.

 

[TheIronColonel]

A proposal of a 'plus-4' after the BCS bowls is apparrently being discussed this week.

SI.com from the Denver Post.

Mountain West not getting far with BCS - The Denver Post

As expected, the Mountain West Conference proposal to restructure the Bowl Championship Series met with a tepid response at this week's conference commissioners meeting in Colorado Springs.

"While some conference reports indicated possible interest in a future evaluation of elements of the proposal, specifically governance structure and revenue, there was no overall support for the proposal," ACC commissioner and BCS coordinator John Swofford said in a statement released Wednesday afternoon.

As expected, DOA.

 

[HailToMichigan]

And under the current system, a Boise State (see Utah) still will never get a chance at the BCS title game because they will always be voted low enough to be kept out of it due to their conference affiliation.

Which is why I think a competition committee in any system would be better than the current rankings used for any system.

I think it's extremely telling, though, that not even any of the non-BCS coaches voted Utah #1 or #2 last year. Or #3 or #4 for that matter; #5 was the highest Utah was ranked. That includes the MWC coaches - those of Wyoming, TCU, New Mexico.....and Utah itself. The Mountain West coaches themselves acknowledged Utah's undefeated record wasn't good enough to play for the title over one-loss teams from the power conferences. Utah's coach admitted it. He voted his own team fifth.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

So you have 5 BCS bowl winners and only 4 advance to the playoff? How do they decide which winner is left out? I'd also be interested in how the seeding of the 5 BCS bowls would work. Do they keep traditional conference tie-ins or are the matchups somehow determined by rank?

Yeah, and then there's the concept that after 12 games we can't trust any system to give us 2... but now I'm supposed to accept ... with 13 games... well, sure... no problem, now we can pick 4.

 

[BB73]

I thought they rejected it a while ago, but I guess it just became official.

CBS

BCS presidents reject Mountain West playoff plan

Bowl Championship Series presidents have rejected the Mountain West Conference's playoff plan.

The MWC proposed an eight-team playoff system that would allow greater access to the national championship game to teams outside the six most powerful leagues. The BCS presidential oversight committee rejected the concept during a teleconference on Wednesday.

"There was no overall support for the proposal, although some conferences were interested in considering certain elements of it in the future -- particularly those related to revenue, access and governance of the BCS arrangement," said University of Oregon president David Frohnmayer, the outgoing committee chairman.

 

[AuburnBuckeye]

This is such a dumb situation, it seems like people who are all for a playoff outnumber those who aren't like 5 to 1. If this happens it could be the best playoff in sports, be very close to rivaling march madness. (At least in my opinion) Definetly keep it to a small number of teams though, adding teams takes away from the intensity. But whatever, got a few years before anything will be done

 

[blueinfla]

it seems like people who are all for a playoff outnumber those who aren't like 5 to 1.

It's probably closer to 25 to 1.

 

[AuburnBuckeye]

It's probably closer to 25 to 1.

Hey, don't make fun, my math education reaches only slightly beyond a 3rd grade level.

 

[Jaxbuck]

This is such a dumb situation, it seems like people who are all for a playoff outnumber those who aren't like 5 to 1. If this happens it could be the best playoff in sports, be very close to rivaling march madness. (At least in my opinion) Definetly keep it to a small number of teams though, adding teams takes away from the intensity. But whatever, got a few years before anything will be done

It's probably closer to 25 to 1.

I don't think its anywhere near that high. Right now its easy to say "yeah that would be cool" because there is no concrete plan in place. See how many tsun and OSU fans are still on board when it costs them The Game as we've known it for over 100 years.

I am personaly, slightly opposed to a playoff until I see a real plan because the second you start a playoff you are screwing with the single greatest regular season in sports. The only question is to degree.

 

[blueinfla]

I don't think its anywhere near that high. Right now its easy to say "yeah that would be cool" because there is no concrete plan in place. See how many tsun and OSU fans are still on board when it costs them The Game as we've known it for over 100 years.

I am personaly, slightly opposed to a playoff until I see a real plan because the second you start a playoff you are screwing with the single greatest regular season in sports. The only question is to degree.

Well, why don't we make a poll?

Also, as far as it being the single greatest regular season, that's completely your opinion, and yours alone. Personally, I hate the do-or-die that has become college football. This state has created the "powder puff" scheduling that is a large part of modern day college football.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Well, why don't we make a poll?

Also, as far as it being the single greatest regular season, that's completely your opinion, and yours alone. Personally, I hate the do-or-die that has become college football. This state has created the "powder puff" scheduling that is a large part of modern day college football.

There have been many polls on the topic. I haven't seen one invovle a detailed explination of what the "playoff" would be. Thats the point.

As far as the current system creating "powder puff" schedules, that's on a school by school basis. OSU, Texas, USC, to name a few have no problem going OOC against other heavyweights.

CFB having the single greatest regular season in sports may indeed be my opinion but you are greatly mistaken if you think its mine alone.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Hey, don't make fun, my math education reaches only slightly beyond a 3rd grade level.

So....that's the equivalent to an MBA from Auburn? :p