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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1827093; said:
There is no magic to playoffs - you may prefer them, and that's fine, but they are not some kind of magical prescription. They do not produce a more legitimate champion. They do not solve "bubble team bitching" problems. Playoffs were not invented to even address these problems, let alone solve them. Playoffs were originally exhibitions between competing leagues, nothing more - nothing less. Two champions of otherwise equal leagues battling it out after their season for bragging rights or a trophy to pass around.
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They DO produce a legitimate champion. Because you have clear rules as to who wins. Now, there is no rule. Do you realize that our loss to Wisconsin really meant nothing? We were never going to the NC game. Oregon and Auburn were always going to be ranked higher than us.

I'd rahter have a "bubble team bitching" problem as opposed to a "undefeated team that did nothing wrong bitching" problem.
 
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I keep harping on it, and will continue to do so: FCS (I-AA) has had a 16-team format for at least two decades and it has worked like a charm. And as SloopyHangOn pointed out a few posts back, there's soooo much money to be made in the playoff format. If I-AA, II, and III schools can handle the travel, missed classes, and physical demands of the up-to-four extra games caused by playoffs, then I-A schools sure as hell can.
 
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Incognito;1832581; said:
They DO produce a legitimate champion. Because you have clear rules as to who wins. Now, there is no rule. Do you realize that our loss to Wisconsin really meant nothing? We were never going to the NC game. Oregon and Auburn were always going to be ranked higher than us.
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I'm not sure if this was what your getting at, but if OSU had beaten Wisconsin and stayed undefeated there's no doubt we would've played for a national title.
 
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Incognito;1832581; said:
They DO produce a legitimate champion. Because you have clear rules as to who wins. Now, there is no rule. Do you realize that our loss to Wisconsin really meant nothing? We were never going to the NC game. Oregon and Auburn were always going to be ranked higher than us.

I'd rahter have a "bubble team bitching" problem as opposed to a "undefeated team that did nothing wrong bitching" problem.
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I didn't say Playoffs were illegitimate. I said that they are not any more legitimate. There are rules, by the way. If you're ranked 1 or 2, you play for the championship. Pretty simple.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1832460; said:
14 teams. Move regular season forward 1 week and cut it short 1 OOC game (11 games).

1st round played at home field of higher seeds.

#1 & #2 get first round byes and play the winners of the #8/#9 and #7/#10 games.

Second round games played in each of the 4 current BCS bowl stadiums, which rotate each year.

Semi-finals played in the BCS bowl stadium where the #1 ranked BCS team plays their Quarter-final round.

National Championship played in the same stadium.

That's only 15 games. Same as FCS champions play (I think).

Makes sense to me!
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That's 13 games. In single elimination, the number of games is always just 1 less than the number of teams. :wink2:
 
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Incognito;1832581; said:
They DO produce a legitimate champion. Because you have clear rules as to who wins. Now, there is no rule. Do you realize that our loss to Wisconsin really meant nothing? We were never going to the NC game. Oregon and Auburn were always going to be ranked higher than us.

I'd rahter have a "bubble team bitching" problem as opposed to a "undefeated team that did nothing wrong bitching" problem.
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Would that game have meant more if both teams were in a playoff at the end of the year?
 
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BB73;1832708; said:
Would that game have meant more if both teams were in a playoff at the end of the year?
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Why... no... if Ohio State and Wisconsin were both still alive for a National Championship via a playoff, I would think that particular game would be meaningless in retrospect.

I remember Ohio State being ranked #1 and in the drivers seat for a trip to the title game if they won out. But... they blew it. Hard to argue it was meaningless in the current BCS format.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1832666; said:
I didn't say Playoffs were illegitimate. I said that they are not any more legitimate. There are rules, by the way. If you're ranked 1 or 2, you play for the championship. Pretty simple.
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There is AWFUL rules under the current system

There's no proving Wisconsin or Ohio State doesn't run train on Auburn or Oregon.

It's complete crap that a national championship is effectively only between 2 conferences.

The Big Ten, that has 3 1-loss teams that are all in the top 10 essentially have NO involvement in the national championship only because of what they did to EACH OTHER. The teams from the Pac 10 and the SEC didn't really do anything to have it's champion get put in the title game besides letting a single team run train on them.

We don't know if there was a single team that Oregon played that was worth a [censored], yet they have an inside track to the title game. Why does everyone think that we get so many lopsided championship games? (Yes, we have probably benefited from this in the past as well when the Big Ten wasn't as strong).

Put them on the field in an 8 team playoff and let teams from around the NATION decide the national championship. Yes the Ohio State loss to Wisconsin might be labeled "meaningless" from an OSU perspective (From Wisconsin's perspective they needed the win to stay in the top 8) but guess what..we had to play and win 11 other games to stay in the hunt, games later in the season against Penn State and Iowa would have actually had MORE at stake for us since we'd still have national championship aspirations.
 
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Interesting how little talk there is about the monopoly the BCS has over crowning a D1 college football champion...the fact they are a non-profit tax exempt entity...the small number of people in line to make millions of dollars off of amateur athletes...most fans are naive to the facts (like who actually makes up the BCS committee).

The system sucks and it could be alot better. Politics. Money. Greed.

Sorry but IMO the BCS blows
 
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I want a playoff because we would have a shot every year and it crowns the team that's best at the end of the year which is what it's supposed to be about. If you go through a playoff and win over the top teams in the country I don't know how a champion can be more legitimate?

Games at the end of the year are a million times more meaningful with a playoff. After one loss now you are playing for a chance at a BCS bowl. After one loss in a playoff scenario, you are still playing for a shot at a National Title. That makes the regular season a million times more meaningful.

And a playoff does give a more legitimate champion, I don't know how you can deny that. No one tries to say that about any other sport. There's a reason why every other league has a playoff. Play it out on the damn field at the end of the year.

Bubble team bitching??? Really? How is that worse than what we have now?
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1832713; said:
Why... no... if Ohio State and Wisconsin were both still alive for a National Championship via a playoff, I would think that particular game would be meaningless in retrospect.
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Not necassairly..

Wisconsin would now have home field advantage, so we may have to take a trip out to Camp Randall in December..
 
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